[dannymack]

Whizz I'm sure it's easier to canvass houses than it is commercial as there's much more houses about, I could go round canvassing houses if that's what I wanted to do or get A5 sheets with my business hand them into the local shop at a small fee to put inside local papers that get delivered. I know if I canvass business's they will never ring prob just throw in the bin so it's easier and more professional to get a telesales to do this for you as the percentage of an appointment will
Be much greater. Becci got me 4 commercial properties of which I start one next week which easy covers the payout costs. I'm still waiting on the other 3 but hey if they don't come off not to worried as ill profit from the one and another commercial job on my books which these days getting commercial work is hard to get !!! Not knocking ya just letting you know the way it is and good luck with what you do as we've all gotta earn to have a good living !!!! 😁😳😜

[KT1]

I dont let initially let anybody new give me a list, to start with, as I know my business, I know whats going to work and whats not, as I know exactly whats going to be on that list.  Danny no its not hard to canvass commercial stuff theres tons of us that do it, no myth

[Whizz-Bizz]

Ultimately telesales+knocking are not that dis similar. There both numbers games, there both people buying from people. All I was trying to achieve was to pass over some decent advice, and if people decide to take me up on all off it, some of it, or none of it, thats up to them. perhaps I could of worded it better. I actually wish when I started someone more experienced  had pulled me to 1 side and clued me up, instead of letting me sell too cheap and mugging my self off. If your happy at 4 hours, youd be ecstatic at 12 hours and my comment was more about raising minimal standards/criteria.

[KT1]

Marketing in any kind of form, whether telesales, door knocking etc - you HAVE to take on board the person that is doing it - theres no point being disapointed when you haven't actually put a thermometer in your area to test the area yourself - people need to do that - before putting expectations on companies like yourself and me and Becci.  Pick the phone up make 100 calls then go to somebody and say yea Ive done 100 calls I know what this area is like, and these are my expectations.  Rabbits and hats.  Danny Mack no its not difficult you havent suddenly found the holy grail as I say http://www.peopleperhour.com/ tons of telesales people for everybody that will do exactly the same job as Becci and myself. Its nothing new im 23 years in

[KT1]

Yes numbers Whizz  - your clued in, and you know how it works.

[davids3511]

Dont explain yourself whizz. You have nothing to prove or explain People will use you as they have no other or better way! Dont worry about haters they are everywhere waiting for people to fall so just dont let it happen.
I havnt seen anyone complain about you so you must be doing something right.
Keep up the good work i say.

I hope you don't mean me as a 'hater'. I didn't like the tone of that message and I said so. As for the rest I couldn't give a toss one way or the other.

[8weekly]

Dont explain yourself whizz. You have nothing to prove or explain People will use you as they have no other or better way! Dont worry about haters they are everywhere waiting for people to fall so just dont let it happen.
I havnt seen anyone complain about you so you must be doing something right.
Keep up the good work i say.

I hope you don't mean me as a 'hater'. I didn't like the tone of that message and I said so. As for the rest I couldn't give a toss one way or the other.

"Haters" are anyone that disagrees with Mick. 

[Becci Swan]

I dont see my clients as marks, but I do know that when all is done and dusted the majority wont really care if at the end of it all, if all  their canvasser has for christmas dinner is a frozen pizza. If any canvasser believes anything less than that their delusional. As canvassers we only ever have 1 slice of the cake and thats that, Id be an idiot if I didnt look to take as much money as possible.

Whilst Id never look to compromise on the quality of my service, or the quality of my deals. I realise that I will not and cannot bull#### people and if my honesty offends or is mistaken for rubbing peoples noses in it, Id rather be known for that than a bull#######.

I also know that if someone came along offering the same high service at less money whether its me or Becci the majority of people would jump onto them.

Im not sure if anyones noticed but I really dont get any complaints from people that have ACTUALLY paid me money only ones who have been refused credit, or cut short on the phone.

Also just incase anyones noticed Beccis had more complaints than me in 4 months than Ive had in 5 years, my advice was merely put forward to bring this down and at the same time up her income. WIN-WIN anyways I shant be offering green canvassers any more advice good luck, peace out, good luck.
 

Whizz as you have already mentioned I deal with many more companies per week than you do - I have up to 15 companies per week whereas you have 1. Nature of the work, and not just telemarketing but window cleaning too as I have read, you can't please everyone! But my positive comments outway the negative.

I always work to the brief I am given, and although I will advise the best approach, 'the customer is always right' - you start telling people how to run their business and they will most likely walk away from you!

[davids3511]

Dont explain yourself whizz. You have nothing to prove or explain People will use you as they have no other or better way! Dont worry about haters they are everywhere waiting for people to fall so just dont let it happen.
I havnt seen anyone complain about you so you must be doing something right.
Keep up the good work i say.

I hope you don't mean me as a 'hater'. I didn't like the tone of that message and I said so. As for the rest I couldn't give a toss one way or the other.

"Haters" are anyone that disagrees with Mick. 

Ah, so loads of us then

[dannymack]

I've started a war here, only advised yous to try Becci's services lol 😄
I think some canvassers are get peed as they want more work there way than Becs pmsl 😁😜😳😜

[trippyboy]

Becci I would like to know more about your services,would you contact me @ clearview2009@mail.com
Thanks

[Whizz-Bizz]

Swan, Swanster, Swanny my green canvassing friend  , I deal with about 20-30 cleaners a month. Factor in the 500 or so fresh residential bookings a month I knock in and the 2-4 telesales campaigns a month that I do. I know what its like to deal with multiple jobs and its a nightmare, my suggestion was merely aimed at raising your pay, whilst making things easier for you.

The way I operate is different and I actually disagree with your comment in regards to telling people how to run their business, Which I do to an extent. I have very strict rules in regards to how my packages work and if they go maverick on me I cant actually guarantee anything. Thats in place to ensure the best results.

In my clients eyes I am the marketing expert, and they follow my procedures, or they earn less money.

Would anyone here go to the dentist and start telling the dentist how to do a route canal ? No.

Reason being he is the expert in the patients eyes. Its the same principle.

[CHT]

Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really

[8weekly]

Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really

Really? What did people do before the phone was invented?

[Frankybadboy]

Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really

Really? What did people do before the phone was invented?

make war

[andyM]

Danny, no I dont think you have started a war - Whizz and Becci arent in competition with each other.... I was just saying that telemarketing is the oldest form of marketing, and nothing new really

Really? What did people do before the phone was invented?

Tin cans and a long length of string? 

[steveo22]

Hi Becci, could you drop me an email to s.coxwindowcleaning@gmail.com

Kind regards

Steve

[vespawho]

Having used a canvasser this summer i have to say i like the way Becci said she can advise but the customer is always right.

My canvasser who was recommended (but also told is a numpty, but gets good work) gave me his advice, said how he felt things should be done etc. Listened to what i wanted to offer, then did what he wanted.
The main gripe being that he said i should not offer anything less than 8 weekly cleans.
I wanted to offer 4 - 8 ..one off cleans etc.....basically on the doorstep, see what the customer wants and try to work with it. After plenty of arguments over many things we parted ways, the main thing was he would not accept that on the doorstep he is representing my company, my ways of cleaning etc.....and that i paid his wages. Same as my customers pay mine.
He tried to make out it is something really hard to do. Yes there are different methods, but at end of the day its a numbers game and confidence to knock the doors or pick up the phone. I only used him because i needed to build a round fast and hadnt enough spare time myself.
Might have gone slightly off topic, but i do think we can all give our advice to people or say how we run our companies. But end of the day my company, becci's, whizz.......we all run them how we want to run them.

[roundbuilder]

I see where your coming from whizz and think beci and others have missinterpreted what you meant as advice.
If im right from reading between the lines your saying that instead of booking her for a few hours (4 min) to stop any bad reviews of her getting poor or few results from the cleaners who expect the world for £40 to instead take bookings of 15 hours plus which would pretty much guarantee a few contracts and maybe a more full on cleaner who appreatiates her time without the need to make any complaints or poor reviews on her.
If im wrong shoot me but its how i read it.

[Viktor]

Becci Swan

Hi Becci Swan, are you still taking new work, if so please email me to bvt333@gmail.com

Regards