[gwrightson]

just stumbled across this article.

My question is . How do you manage ?
copied and pasted.


Here are some mill and fiber producer statements on carpet bonnet cleaning:
•"Do not use ’spin bonnet’ or other rotary systems on cut-pile carpet."
 -- Axminster Carpet
•"Bonnet or Absorbent Pad … The use of this method is not recommended on cut-pile carpet."
-- BASF, Guidelines for Maintenance and Cleaning
•"Non-approved methods: … Bonnet Method: … Disadvantage: This method only affects the surface of the carpet. The buffing action can distort the carpet pile and grind dirt deeper into the pile, and the spinning action of the pad can distort face yarn."
-- Collins & Aikman Floorcoverings, Care maintenance program for Powerbond products
•"Bonnet cleaning systems … Shaw Industries does not recommend this cleaning system. The bonnet system has very limited capability for soil removal and leaves much of the detergent in the pile since it employs no real extraction. As a result, rapid resoiling often occurs. Another disadvantage of this system is that the spinning bonnet may distort the pile fibers of cut pile carpet, leaving distinct swirl marks."
 -- Shaw Industries

Geoff

[Jamie Pearson]

When a client is presented with a test area and a price for the recommended method and the bonnet cleaning method they rarely follow the guidelines as they cant afford it and will willingly trade off.

Many bonnet cleaning products have a lubricating factor to them to help with this problem. Some others such as microsplitters dont so could arguably fall foul of the guildelines.

I have installations that we have used bonnets and more recently agitation pads on that are 15+ years old and still looking great.

[Mike Halliday]

Geoff that's not fair only asking dedicated bonneters to answer, it leaves out the other 95% of us

I'm going to ignore your title  

I would be interested when that was written and if its ever been amended to take into account the development of bonnet chemicals.

I've read the shaw industry recommendation for cleaning for the last 20yrs. I bet it's never been updated.

[*Hector*]

I would be interested when that was written and if its ever been amended to take into account the development of bonnet chemicals.

I was going to ask the same question.... I don't use detergent at all.

[gwrightson]

Actualy mike,

it was taken from Banes site, which is a pretty good site really,lots of info, not saying all the info is spot on , obviously some bias, all the same  heres the link .
http://www.baneclene.com/index.html

geoff

[Xtremely Clean]

Has anyone heard of a carpet being damaged with a rotary?

[Jamie Pearson]

Has anyone heard of a carpet being damaged with a rotary?

Yes but usually when wrong speed and pad have been used.

Normally by a contract cleaning company in my experience.

[Xtremely Clean]

What's the most rpm you've used Jamie on domestics and commercial?

Cheers

[Jamie Pearson]

I dont use a rotary on domestics. I personally wouldnt exceed 200 rpm for carpet cleaning.

The ideal rotary machine is around 50kg and 150rpm in my opinion.

[Xtremely Clean]

Ok cheers

[Darran Pryce]

We use 170rpm rotary which is around 48kg and is fantastic on commercial property, but also great on void domestic properties, no furniture.  Dynamall and a rotary, you can't beat it and the speed you get the job in. wow

[gwrightson]

Hmmmmm !!!! 

 My original  post was really to try and discover how bonnet users only manage ,   do they turn any work away ?
 as already stated " technology and products have improved " and not quite the problem it may have been in the past.  There are however , must be many a  carpet/ rug  that cannot really be cleaned effectivly with out causing problems !

Please dont get the idea I am having a go at bonnet users, far from it , it just made me wonder after reading the article .

Geoff

[Darran Pryce]

I don't only use my rotary, I also use an extraction machine.  In fact I use the extraction machine on a lot of jobs, but having a rotary that covers both domestic and commercial along with an extraction machine keeps my fingers in many pork pies (pardon the pun) and helps me win a lot of commercial work do to being able to keep my costings down due to the quick cleaning (coverage) and drying of a rotary. 

My 17" rotary is only 170rpm which covers domestic and commercial carpets, then my 12" oreck will clean domestic and is great for agitating the chemical into the carpet fibres.  It's also great for stairs.

Darran