[neil 47]

On Tuesday I went to quote for what the woman said was two offices which ended up with me going to two full blocks and another two that will want doing about 20 to 30 that want doing including conference rooms as I was caught on the hop and she talked that gas I lost track of the rooms and sizes and also there is only me .

So the question is what do I do now ?

Ps all low profile cheers Neil

[Simon Gerrard]

Hi Neil,
You break very large jobs down to manageable sections and don't think of the totality of it, especially if you're not used to such big jobs.
Each section then becomes a job to which you allocate a block of time so that the job is now about time. You then work out how many individual blocks of time equal the totality of the whole job. This gives you a time frame that you can present to the client.
You can reduce the overall time by getting in extra help so that more jobs, or as they are now, blocks of time get done in a day and so reduce the time taken to complete the whole job.

Simon

[neil 47]

Hi Simon

That's great and wiil do that but how do I give her a price I know that two of us can do prob about two conference rooms in a hour or so but have lost count of how many offices she showed me Doh !

Cheers Neil

[davep]

Ask her to email you a breakdown or ask to go back to do a test patch

[Jamie Pearson]

Request a furniture plan in cad or PDF format.

Usually they aren't to scale but you can take one measurement on each floor when onsite and then use that as a guide.

They should have one if its a large building for asset tracking and staff locations.

[Hilton]

Just ask her to obtain the sq footage for each floor, they will have these as buildings are let our leased by the sq ft...then work your price out accordingly..

[Jamie Pearson]

Google can be your friend for this. Search for the letting agents, property owners or even google images and often you can get a rough plan.

[neil 47]

Hilton
cheers I will just give her a price per sq mt then  she can work it out from that

Cleaning systems
I will also do as u suggest so to give her a rough idea price for  per building


 Neil

[John Kelly]

Bad idea as it gives her a benchmark to shop around. I would always price commercials on time.

[Simon Gerrard]

You can't give her a price until you have worked out how you're going to do it and how long it will take.
If you've only got weekends then that is a block of time. You then have to decide how much you want, or the client needs done in that time frame. You then allocate the amount of equipment and manpower to achieve that.
You need to find out from the client when the work needs to be completed as that gives you the total time available to do the job. If you've got to get extra help that will affect your price because extra professional help costs more than labourers.
So if I were you I would get as much detail of the total size of the job and find out when the clients wants the work completed by. You can then do your sums.

Simon

[Kinver_Clean]

And take a notepad next time!

[tony bish]

Very good advice from Simon Gerrard and worth noting .

[neil 47]

Simon there is 2 of us with 2 sets of lm kits also have 2 helpers think we will return do a sample room which will get her used to meeting us and also be able to find out her budget , I did take a note pad but she rushed around and kept disappearing into rooms but will get better details next time cheers do all advice

[Steve Chapman]

Why not just be honest and ask if you can come back and get accurate measurements and see the condition of the carpets etc or say you need to come and see what the accessibilty is like.

For us its not uncommon for me to go back a couple of times and see a job if it is fairly large, also it shows you are making sure you get it right which is helpful to them.

Sometimes on a first visit a job looks easy but on going back you notice all the little stains and obstacles tha tneed to be overcome.

Steve

[Ian Gourlay]

If this job is going to take a lot of your time , make sure she understands your payment terms .

[clinton]

I try and work on how long the job will take and always allow  extra time on new  jobs.

Maybe you will find some carpets clean quick as some don't so you have to spend more time on bad ones.