[Dave Willis]

Turn it round the other way - how many of us on this forum served a windowcleaning apprentiship? How many of us taught ourselves? How many of us earned full money from day one?

Why would any youngster need to serve an apprentiship for such a simple job?

I served a five year apprentiship to learn how to be a printer. In those days you needed it - it was a skill. These days it's reduced to three years or less, the reason being that technology has erased much of the skills involved - if you can operate a computer the chances are you can run a printing machine. It's still a massive gap from wiping dirt off a window though.

[telfordwindowclnr]

Turn it round the other way - how many of us on this forum served a windowcleaning apprentiship? How many of us taught ourselves? How many of us earned full money from day one?

No one. But the way I have read some posts seem to indicate you can teach window cleaning in a day or less.

[Dave Willis]

I taught myself in half an hour and was on full money (as opposed to a cut down apprentiship rate) from the second I did my first window.
You obviously didn't need an apprentiship either so why would anyone else?

[roundbuilder]

Turn it round the other way - how many of us on this forum served a windowcleaning apprentiship? How many of us taught ourselves? How many of us earned full money from day one?

No one. But the way I have read some posts seem to indicate you can teach window cleaning in a day or less.

Unless your a few sandwiches short then why cant you learn i. A day. I taught step dad in half a day trad and wfp, after 6 weeks he is spot on with both methods at a half decent speed maintaining his customers well getting tips from doing such a good job.
it would take longer to show someone how to fry an egg properly than clean a window properly.
As said no kid on this planet who did well at school would want to become a (sorry i have to laugh)....fully qualified window cleaner and do an apprentaship to become one! its drummed into them the way it was most of us that if they do badly at school all they will be worthy of when older is being a dustman or a window cleaner!.
I chose this job due to simplicity. Clean-collect. Clean-collect. Clean-collect. Throw in being reliable and doing a good job and thats about all the fundamentals involved.

[DG Cleaning]

Interesting thread this. Just for clarification, do some of you think you can teach someone everything there is to know about window cleaning in a couple of hours or days? It's not a trick question, but consider your answer carefully...it may affect your credibility on here.... 

Sounding more like Mr Willis of Impact infamy Steve.
 Now that WILL affect your credibility on here

[C o z y]

Interesting thread this. Just for clarification, do some of you think you can teach someone everything there is to know about window cleaning in a couple of hours or days? It's not a trick question, but consider your answer carefully...it may affect your credibility on here.... 

Oh dear, I wouldn't want my credibility on here damaged would I?  I picked up a dolly and squeagy with a mate one day and he had some old sweat working for him that showed me the basics in 10 minutes.

I went off and canvassed a few streets and kicked off from there. I was employing other old sweats to help me get through my work within a few months. One of these guys actually showed me how to fan!!! Up until then, I was pulling windows off from one side to the other!!! And still earning enough to live off!!

I swear on my life, it''s the easiest "job" I've ever done. I admit, that when you take on commercial work like huge hospitals etc, you need to learn how to plan method and team org etc. But when all is said and done, who the hell "trained" me??

I never understand why some on here feel the need to big themselves up. I find it hillarious   Knock yourselves out lads.Vision enhancement technicians 

[C o z y]

Turn it round the other way - how many of us on this forum served a windowcleaning apprentiship? How many of us taught ourselves? How many of us earned full money from day one?

No one. But the way I have read some posts seem to indicate you can teach window cleaning in a day or less.

it would take longer to show someone how to fry an egg properly than clean a window properly.

Point made I think.

[DG Cleaning]

The problem as I see it is selling it to youngsters and getting the right ones.
As I see it they'll fall into the following categories.

The bright acedemic ones: Won't want to clean windows

The thick ones: Would do it and think it was great but they're so thick you might not want em.

Not thick but not academics: Will see it for what it is and be a plumber instead. These would be the best ones but they'll
want full money more or less straight away if you can talk them into it.

 

[C o z y]

Exactly. The people who would call about the apprenticeship you're offering would be that thick git from Emmerdale, Sam Dingle, or Kirk from Corrie.

Imagine the first day..................  right mate, here's the dolly, and squeegy, wet glass, place squeegy on the top left and ................... repeat until all windows are clean.
Tomorrow, how to clean frames. Next week, how to wash van.   Get a grip!  

Next month, squirty water pole thingy jiggling.

[C o z y]

G.brookes I will email you tomorrow,



I certainly don't know it all and I reckon my business is in a better position than most who are taking the p--- out of your thread.

No need to swear about it. There are always better ways of expressing yourself without doing that. Lowers the tone of this highly skilled trade.   Here's a reminder of the CIU rules. HTH
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=46185.0

[8weekly]

Interesting thread this. Just for clarification, do some of you think you can teach someone everything there is to know about window cleaning in a couple of hours or days? It's not a trick question, but consider your answer carefully...it may affect your credibility on here.... 

You never seem to worry about yours.  

[C o z y]

Interesting thread this. Just for clarification, do some of you think you can teach someone everything there is to know about window cleaning in a couple of hours or days? It's not a trick question, but consider your answer carefully...it may affect your credibility on here.... 

You never seem to worry about yours.  

 

[C o z y]

You can't be bothered answering that for one simple reason, and that's because most who are giving negative help CAN'T and don't know how to pick up good work.

That's the answer completely

Nice to see you back after your ban. Still a bit aggressive, but oh well. 

[C o z y]

That's it here we go again, answer me cozy, how much work do you pick up ?

You say everything else is easy, which I disagree with, so tell me how much work you have picked up this month, bearing in mind I have NEVER canvassed ever

  Why are you attacking me? how do you know if and when I canvass? When were you last in Herford, Paderborn or Gütersloh in Germany where I work? How do you know what vehicle I drive or how many customers I have. How can you see from darkest Bolton where you have your caravan how my business is going? What is your major malfunction? You scare me. I've never had a stalker before. I don't know whether to be impressed or not.  

[roundbuilder]

Just can't believe some people on here who are window cleaners try and belittle someone who puts a genuinely good question on.

If everything's so easy, ie window cleaning, abseiling, Waterfed poles, cherry Pickers etc which is what has been said, then I would like to know how easy you find it picking good work up ?

Please answer

G.brookes I will email you tomorrow,

No point EVER posting a thread on here because they all know it all.

I certainly don't know it all and I reckon my business is in a better position than most who are taking the p--- out of your thread.

We all have our opinions like I said just like, NOT everybody could learn abseiling, not that I can do it but some are good and others are not good, simple as that.

I will offer some help, or would you rather me give it the big one and pretend I know it all, because to be honest, that's not me, I will try and help.

Archer do you actualy truely believe that there is a need for apprentice window cleaners?
My daughter of 9 has learnt the job the last 2 weeks with me and today she cleaned 3 whole fronts by herself to which realy impressed me, it realy couldnt be anymore simpler to learn the job.

[DG Cleaning]

Mick,

Someone asked a simple question for which he has been ridiculed and basically laughed at.

Yes I believe there is a place to take a young lad on to train up correctly, I really do and this is something I am also thinking about.

Your daughter is all fine going to work with you which is also nice to hear about, dad and daughter at work together, I think it's brilliant as there are many so called dads that don't have 2 minutes to spend with their kids.

I for one wouldn't knock that either, it just amazes me that some people seem to believe they know everything, when they clearly don't.

You've hit the nail on the head Archer "take a young lad and train him up correctly"
It's not an apprenticeship because that's something different altogether, yet training providers who want to make more money start creating more courses and making them more 'special' by saying its an apprenticeship.
All it needs is you as an experienced window cleaner imparting your knowledge.

[C o z y]

More phone calls on the way for me later   E-mails too. Sad really. I have it on record. Angry little man.

I'm not removing my details off my profile because of mongs that have little or no control either. My phone's on silent after 9 pm because of this rubbish

[Dave Willis]

This thread is nuts. So now we need a 'picking up work' apprenticeship too?

[DG Cleaning]

Come on lads no winding Archer up again

[roundbuilder]

Cozy,

If you are clearly stating that I have telephoned you or emailed you, then please prove it, I have NEVER telephoned you or emailed you in my life.

I also believe that you ARE also Ben m.

I don't care for one minute if anyone takes me seriously, obviously you find it difficult to understand that someone who has started with absolutely nothing and struggled can achieve a decent business.

Just to let you know how easy it is to pick work up without doing any canvassing at all, and yes I will big myself up on this, I have picked up just over £45k worth of work this month

Not bad for a Mong is it, that has a caravan

Nice going.