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Dean Taberner

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Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« on: August 05, 2013, 02:49:34 pm »
Hello,

I've just got back from watching a postmortem at our local hospital through my job in the Police.

After spending the day watching what happens to people in their final days before they get buried/cremated it really has changed my outlook on life. I won't go into the details but it really is pretty gruesome.

Like I say, it has changed my entire view on how I'm going to live my life. Anybody who is stressed or gets worked up of trivial matters, my message to you is just enjoy your life and be thankful for what you've got while you've still got it. Life is too short.

I've said my piece now,

Who's buying Richys round by the way?

Dean.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

ben M

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2013, 02:55:54 pm »
good post Dean, thanks
You are a cop and a windy?

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2013, 03:00:37 pm »
Its allowed these days.. didn't used to be.. We will see more of it as successive governments slash at your policing budgets..  A lot of cops are building side businesses in the hope of getting out..

Dean sent you an email..

Dean Taberner

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2013, 03:03:10 pm »
Hi Ben/Jim,

I'm a Special Constable with Staffs Police and have been in for 9yrs now. I love it, its a welcome change from Window cleaning that's for sure.

I'm on my phone at the moment Jim, I'll take a look. :)

http://m.staffordshire.police.uk/about_us/specials/
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

ben M

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2013, 03:04:06 pm »
Its allowed these days.. didn't used to be.. We will see more of it as successive governments slash at your policing budgets..  A lot of cops are building side businesses in the hope of getting out..

Dean sent you an email..
was just a question! thanks for the answer Dean

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2013, 03:04:35 pm »
Its allowed these days.. didn't used to be.. We will see more of it as successive governments slash at your policing budgets..  A lot of cops are building side businesses in the hope of getting out..

Dean sent you an email..
was just a question! thanks for the answer Dean
Just saying  , its a subject close to my heart….  :)

Dean Fair play to you mate I wouldn't do it again, 25 years was more than enough… Windows is probably doing for me what Copperin is doing for you right now..
I take my hat off to all you specials that keep coming in getting physically and verbally abused week in week out.. Just for the love of it..
Ben Sorry got my Deans and My Ben's mixed up… Old age I think.. lol

ben M

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2013, 03:07:17 pm »
nice Dean Do you get pay for that?

deeege

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2013, 03:14:26 pm »
Sounds grim Dean.

When i was 15 my ex-girlfriends mum worked in a private funeral home. We used to go to see her in work and we would often sneak downstairs where all the dead people would be in their open coffins in various states of being embalmed. You wouldn't catch me going downstairs these days though.  :-\
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

Tom White

Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2013, 03:44:51 pm »
Like I say, it has changed my entire view on how I'm going to live my life.

You've had an experience some would call it a 'spiritual experience' (to do with the human spirit; nothing 'woo woo').  William James wrote quite a famous book about these type of experiences and he describes them often as being transitory, a bit like alcohol or drugs.

In a years time you may have pretty much forgotten about what you've seen and just revert back to the old Dean.  Maybe not though?

I also think that in the West we hide our dead in coffins, like they're something unclean or not to be seen.  In other cultures that's not the case.  Dan Worgan once stuck up some pics of his father-in-laws funeral in Indonesia; there they just laid him out for everyone to see.  What a great reminder that our time on this planet is short, that we all die.

We all know we're going to die at an intellectual level, but at a heart level we don't really realise it.  It seems from what you viewed, you understand that heart knowledge a lot deeper than what you did.

There's a meditation that some Buddhists do; it's a meditation on our death.  We basically settle down and imagine ourselves dying.  It's also a time to reflect on what are the really meaningful things we've done with our lives.  Is it building a good business and making far more money than we need?  Or is it something else?  I know when I did this it had nothing to do with money or material wealth and everything to do with other people.  The result should be we live our life better, putting our energy into the things that really matter, and letting go of the things that don't.

Knowing we're going to die, really knowing it at a level deeper than intellectual should be transforming; it should clarify what's important in life, and what's not.

I think you had a corking experience; hang onto it.

Dean Taberner

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2013, 04:11:16 pm »
It certainly was life changing,

I can't get the thought of it out of my mind. :-o
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Dean Taberner

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2013, 04:26:22 pm »
Its allowed these days.. didn't used to be.. We will see more of it as successive governments slash at your policing budgets..  A lot of cops are building side businesses in the hope of getting out..

Dean sent you an email..
was just a question! thanks for the answer Dean
Just saying  , its a subject close to my heart….  :)

Dean Fair play to you mate I wouldn't do it again, 25 years was more than enough… Windows is probably doing for me what Copperin is doing for you right now..
I take my hat off to all you specials that keep coming in getting physically and verbally abused week in week out.. Just for the love of it..
Ben Sorry got my Deans and My Ben's mixed up… Old age I think.. lol

I do love it Jim, its a kind of release from the windows, I get what you're saying about window cleaning being similar to you as policing is to me. :)
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Dean Taberner

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2013, 04:30:03 pm »
nice Dean Do you get pay for that?

We don't get a wage as such Ben but we do get expenses such as fuel and food allowance. It isn't something that I do for the money, I do it for a change from my day job. I've done so many things through the police that I never thought I'd ever do, from flying in the force helicopter, drug raids, communtiy events, postmortems etc. If I didn't work in the police, window cleaning wouldve probably driven me insane by now.
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2013, 04:32:56 pm »
Its allowed these days.. didn't used to be.. We will see more of it as successive governments slash at your policing budgets..  A lot of cops are building side businesses in the hope of getting out..

Dean sent you an email..
was just a question! thanks for the answer Dean
Just saying  , its a subject close to my heart….  :)

Dean Fair play to you mate I wouldn't do it again, 25 years was more than enough… Windows is probably doing for me what Copperin is doing for you right now..
I take my hat off to all you specials that keep coming in getting physically and verbally abused week in week out.. Just for the love of it..
Ben Sorry got my Deans and My Ben's mixed up… Old age I think.. lol

I do love it Jim, its a kind of release from the windows, I get what you're saying about window cleaning being similar to you as policing is to me. :)
Dont get me wrong it was great for a great number of years, and Blue lights and fights have  to be up there among  some of the ultimate Buzz's. I have been left with a myriad of tales and war stories to tell. Im just the wrong side of 50 for it now.. And windows don't generally fight back…. lol

JackieW

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2013, 04:44:32 pm »
I have never seen a dead person.

Tom White

Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2013, 04:54:34 pm »
I have never seen a dead person.

That's 'cos in the West, we hide them, like they're a bit of unclean rubbish.  I think it's a stupid attitude.

AuRavelling79

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2013, 05:03:50 pm »
I have never seen a dead person.

That's 'cos in the West, we hide them, like they're a bit of unclean rubbish.  I think it's a stupid attitude.

Seen my father, my uncle, my father-in-law. All cancer victims. Not pretty.

Oh, and a lady who died in a car crash - not sure if she was dead when I saw her but she was deffo out of it. Looked quite peaceful but with a bloody nose sat at the wheel of her battered but fairly intact Volvo. She was helicoptered to hospital and the coppers who interviewed me about the crash (eye witness, not involved directly) told me she was certainly dead on arrival.
It's a game of three halves!

Tom White

Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2013, 07:16:05 pm »
I've had a complaint that this subject aint 'window cleaning', but I think I'll leave it here.  I know there's a few of us that came to window cleaning because we wanted a stress free 'alternative' life style.

I can't say it's stress free, I've just done a magical mystery tour of the Wye Valley looking for a property to quote by some numpty that has just moved in the area and couldn't give me accurate directions, but I think Dean's post is in the spirit of that 'alternative lifestyle'.

So I'll leave it here.

Positivity

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2013, 07:20:06 pm »
I have never seen a dead person.
You need to get out more - walk down any High Street the world's full of them!

Dean Taberner

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2013, 07:26:49 pm »
I've had a complaint that this subject aint 'window cleaning', but I think I'll leave it here.  I know there's a few of us that came to window cleaning because we wanted a stress free 'alternative' life style.

I can't say it's stress free, I've just done a magical mystery tour of the Wye Valley looking for a property to quote by some numpty that has just moved in the area and couldn't give me accurate directions, but I think Dean's post is in the spirit of that 'alternative lifestyle'.

So I'll leave it here.

I can't believe that somebody has complained Tosh, they need to get a life.

Running a business can be seriously stressful at times, I've driven myself to despair because of it in the past.

I put the post up to remind people who are also stressed by their businesses/lives that its all a flash and not to take it too seriously.

I could have put it in the non cleaning topics section but a lot of the people who I wanted to see it probably wouldn't have seen it.

Thanks for keeping it up Tosh. :)
Operations manager at J.V Price Ltd

http://www.thepricegroup.co.uk

Ste b

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Re: Not WC related: Postmortem viewing.
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2013, 07:48:47 pm »
Good luck trying to sleep tonight dean
The purpose of life is to have a life full of purpose