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Chris - CBWC

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Georgians and leaded
« on: March 02, 2006, 06:28:21 am »
What's the best way to clean these?  I don't have a WFP, traditional method only.  The way I've been shown is to ring out a scrim on one of the rungs of the ladder until it's damp-dry, and then a bit of 'wax on, wax off' on the pane.  If I'm doing these houses all day, it gets a bit painful wringing out all the time, plus I'm probably gripping the scrim too hard and pushing too hard on the pane.  Just wondering what others do.

Cheers

Chris

steve k

Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2006, 07:03:31 am »
2 microfibres...1 damp...1 dry.
Wipe damp on, polish dry off.

chris@c.m.s

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2006, 09:37:52 am »
I Use a damp scrim that has been dipped in ro water and  rung out like you mentioned, you can get your Ro water  from a local fish store, I do find that the damp cloth leaves the windows pretty much spotless but I still give them A light polish with a dry cloth, on first cleans I go over them with my sill cloth first, when your damp cloth starts to dry out just spray it with fine mist of Ro again.   
Sussex by the sea

Morph

Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2006, 10:05:15 am »
If it's the old fashioned real leaded, I used wrung out scrim, then buff with really dry one or microfibre.
If the modern leaded stuck on stuff I used to mop and squeegee first then dry off.  Hard work!

Not much help to say this, but leaded windows, was one of the strong reasons for me going with wfp.
Last friday I did a house I used to do the old way, elbow grease.  It used to take me 2+1/2 - 3 hours, and was underpaid, and wore me out.  I used to put off going, always late.
Now I look forward to it.  Much better results, they love it, even though I've found a couple of leaks!!
And it took me 1+1/2 hours, only because I had to slow down a bit ;D I was going too fast!!  And not tired.  Ready for the next one.
Sorry to go off a bit, but makes you think, eh?

Oh, and they said, "is it still the same price?"
"Yes, no increase!"

supernova77

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2006, 12:11:46 pm »
Water + Vinegar + Nilco Glass Cleaner in a spray bottle.

Spray on window and polish off with a dry scrim. Always does a good job for me.

Andy

Ian_Giles

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2006, 01:56:30 pm »
Tesco's own brand window cleaning spray, cheap as chips and very effective.

Lightly mist a couple of panes and buff clean with either scrim or microfibre, my personal choice is microfibre, if you haven't tried them, try the Cleantech own brand ones, identical to the Unger ones but cheaper and only about £4 per cloth.

Nothing wrong with damp scrim/microfibre and then dry scrim/microfibre, but spray and buff is easier and quicker.

Word of caution though...don't try and stick with the same scrim/microfibre by repeatedly drying out and re-using, your cloth may look and feel clean but you do get a residual build up that will end out leaving the glass smeary...not necessarily very noticable on a dull day, but when the sun comes out.......

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Dick

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2006, 02:39:36 pm »
I use a spray bottle containing cleaning solution to mist the window, rub with a micofibre cloth to remove any dirt, then polish with dry scrim. Always seems to work, no complaints (yet).
Dick

beefy

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2006, 07:51:55 pm »
we do this by washing with a damp mop then scrim it dry and had no complaints but looking at other methods here i feel as if we might be missing something ill have to give them a go & bring cumbrian w/cleaning into 21st century.
i bought a small round 2yrs ago & the bloke had never used a squeegee he did all his mop & scrim just like stan ogden

ok cleaning

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2006, 09:18:47 pm »
what we used to do damp the cloth and pour some turtle vax onit and wet the window allover andwait afew seconds polish with a clean cloth when it is dry      and perfect     

Jeff Brimble

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2006, 09:23:52 pm »
Georgian-learn to use both hands at the same time, -you may need two pouches. Scrim/microfibre. It does take concentration but wow can you move.

Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2006, 09:29:32 pm »
ahhhhhhh  ragging leads I remember that  ;)

Didn't mind it too much in dull conditions.  A "just damp" scrim the a quick buff over with a dry one. However in direct sunlight on a hot day.. YUK!!!  Really good advice above about a mist spray then a microfiber cloth. But you do have to be quick coz the spray solution dries out very fast. Also good advice from Ian Giles as always. Change the micro regularly coz it does get residue in it.. end result.. smeary finish. I like the job that micros do but I hate the way they feel for some reason.  Don't get the cheap little micros from the local shop. They are useless. Get the ones Ian suggests. They are ideal for the job.

Cheers

Andrew

steve massey

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2006, 05:31:55 pm »
damp scrim then dry scrim seems to work with leaded

Sir Squeaky

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2006, 06:06:08 pm »
I find damp scrim then dry scrim is fine if you're not in the sun.
It leaves a smear behind then.
I always use spray if in doubt.
turtle vax
Is this a german version? ;D

Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2006, 06:38:30 pm »
I use a spray bottle containing cleaning solution to mist the window, rub with a micofibre cloth to remove any dirt, then polish with dry scrim. Always seems to work, no complaints (yet).
thingy

I used to do the same as Thingy.

I've an old hotel with real leaded windows; they must be around 300 years old and some are really 'bowed and buckled' and I've 'popped' a couple of triangular panes out over the past twelve-months.  (I fix these ones with some polythene and sticky-tape.)

it used to be a nightmare when we did them inside and out; four hours of hand-bashing isn't much fun.

Now I've a WFP I kick Wor Lass inside the hotel and I crack on with the outside; sorted!

batterbee

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2006, 08:48:13 pm »
Hi

I use MR MUSCLE glass cleaner but it's not the one you get in supermarkets it's Johnson & Johnson professional range, it really is the best spray I've tried, it cleans,polishes and buffs the glass all in one go and you don't have to rub hard either.

I get it from makro and costs around £1- £1.49 it depends on wot promotion they have on it, i haven't found it anywhere cheaper i have seen it on the net priced up to £5.

I also use use a tight weaved micro fibre cloth which i get at <a href="http://www.soapnational.co.uk" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.soapnational.co.uk</a> it's there own brand and is blue, this combination really does work so you might wish to give it a try.

Hope this helps

Regards

John
JB CLEANING SERVICES, NORWICH, NORFOLK.

Londoner

Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2006, 08:49:30 am »
I gave up canvassing houses with leaded windows years ago. Its not as silly as it sounds but the best way to do them is not to do them - if you understand what I am trying to say.
One or two are not too bad but don't make work for yourself by taking on loads of houses all with loads of lead.

I am starting out with WFP in the next couple of weeks and once I get the hang of it I may be knocking on those houses I have previously avoided with leaded windows.

sunshine windows

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2006, 09:31:34 am »
If it's a first clean
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

sunshine windows

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Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2006, 09:35:56 am »
Oops wrong button.  :o :o

As i was saying, if it's a first clean then applicator and squeegee off, then scrub dry with a clean scrim,

I then alternate methods every month. Just scrub over with a lightly damp scrim the following month then use applicator and squeegee again month after. Unless there are some really obvious marks on the windows then concentrate on these parts of window with the applicator.

Hope this helps,
Sunshine
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
(Swindon, Wiltshire)

www.sunshinewindowcleaning.co.uk
www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

pjulk

Re: Georgians and leaded
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2006, 03:15:15 pm »
The way i have always done them when doing traditional is.

One damp scrim follow by one dry scrim.
Perfect result every time.

No need for any Turtle Wax im sure this would make them smear but would smell nice.

Paul