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Neil Jones

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Urine contamination
« on: August 02, 2013, 07:58:10 am »
I have some upholstery to do in a care home. Single chairs with very very heavy ursine contamination. I took a test seat home yesterday, it's that bad I could smell it in the back of the van and my garage stunk when I left it there through the day.
Anyway I cleaned last night using enzall and applied two heavy doses of Prochem urine neutraliser and craftex deodoriser. The seat is spotless but still smells really bad.
Any ideas? I have to return the seat this afternoon as they want the job doing Sunday night of which they have already accepted a provisional quote.

Thanks

from edge2edge

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 08:11:48 am »
Neil Have you tried Pong Go from Restormate my daughter rang me to say she didn't quite get to Mcdonalds so peed her drivers seat and although I cleaned it and deodorised it it still smelt until I used Pong Go...........Alan(Swindon)

Norbert

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 03:28:17 pm »
Neil, I've always used Prochem urine neutraliser on urine stains in the past with good effect. However, recently I tried Chemspec's urine contamination treatment on a heavily urine soiled carpet with very good results. I now feel the Chemspec urine treatment is longer lasting than the Prochem product. My advice to you would be to clean the chairs with Prochem's Neutra-Soft B112 extraction cleaner and rinse agent, then spray on the Chemspec urine treatment used neat on cleaned chair seats. I would also spray on the Chemspec Kill Odor Plus to finish off. make sure you use air movers to get the chairs dry for the morning. I would qualify with the care home manager that depending on the severity of the contamination, you may have to retreat the chairs again if the odour returns

I feel this could be a time consuming job, so cover yourself before hand :)

Phil P.


Paul Redden Countryfresh

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 07:25:58 pm »
Yep not only in the foam but probably the wood too. needs a good soak
"So basically its a big vax!"

Paul Moss

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 07:58:25 pm »
Neil, is there not a pro near you that you can sub the job to  :)

Neil Jones

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 10:37:32 pm »
Funny you Paul!
I've already priced it and spoke to them today, Davep is right I think, its soaked right into the foam and not cost effective for them to pay what I would charge to completely remove the smell. They have given the go ahead Sunday on the results of the single chair, that still stinks of p!!!!!

I will definitely try the chemspec stuff in future though.

Thanks

Paul Moss

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 10:54:14 pm »
Neil on a serious note chemspec 429 plus will remove the contamination.

gwrightson

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2013, 07:41:15 am »


Have you thought of replacing the foam !!!

It isnt that expensive, and many a seat foam can be replaced , not all ,I know but worth considering  :)

Couple of years ago i replaced a number in a nursing home for exactly this reason .

Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2013, 12:23:34 pm »
429 plus seems like a good product. What else is it good for? Do you spray on after extraction or before?

Chemspecs urine contamination treatment has never let me down. As long as I know where the urine is and I can get to it.

For the foam seating I'd use a syringe to deliver the product into the foam. 

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2013, 10:40:34 am »
For the foam seating I'd use a syringe to deliver the product into the foam.  

Then place the cushion or seat if possible inside a compactor sack/plastic bag and place your vac hose on. Close the bag around the cuff and let it suck all the air out of the foam. As it does this it pulls the deodoriser out to the walls of the bag treating the foam from the inside out.

The only challenge can be the legs on the chair if they can be removed. I put holes othe bag pop the legs through then duck tape them so it will seal.

Neil Jones

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2013, 08:27:47 pm »
Wow, sounds a lot of effort especially for the quote I've given. I've explain the situation and they seem fine but will offer the other alternatives after cleaning tonight for the future. Seems like a good idea though.
I will also check out the chemspec products. Thanks for all the replies.

James Jacob

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2014, 04:18:36 pm »
For the foam seating I'd use a syringe to deliver the product into the foam.  

Then place the cushion or seat if possible inside a compactor sack/plastic bag and place your vac hose on. Close the bag around the cuff and let it suck all the air out of the foam. As it does this it pulls the deodoriser out to the walls of the bag treating the foam from the inside out.

The only challenge can be the legs on the chair if they can be removed. I put holes in the bag pop the legs through then duck tape them so it will seal.

Can someone elaborate on how long the cushions would need to stay in the bags for... & also whilst were here... how long "Really" should these kind of products be in contact with the fabric & foam & inside the underneath wood etc etc for them to truly work their magic :)
& when it comes to cleaning this type of contamination lets say for this armchair... how would you price up this kind of work involved here?
I mean... lets just say that your usual price for cleaning an armchair with general soilage is £40... how much would it be to clean the same chair with urine contamination?
Im not asking anybody to give me their exact price (unless they want to)...
More just some kind of rule of thumb when it comes to pricing these kind of jobs :)

James Jacob

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Re: Urine contamination
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2014, 05:06:39 pm »
Can anyone help with this question please?