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Richard iSparkle

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Re: Employing
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2013, 12:57:42 pm »
That sounds like you're volunteering yourself for the role?

well i guess if the shoe fits...

2 guys working...   check
turning over £600/day...  check
£400 left after expences...  check

yep, that's me.

i guess you must be a muppet who's earning less then?  ;D
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: Employing
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2013, 01:38:07 pm »
Sorry, have I submitted my figures. I certainly dont feel the need to publicise how successful I think I am. I do wonder why people do that.

Anyway, Im surprised you have enough time to be on here. If I earn't your kind of money, £104,000.00 a year I wouldnt be on CIU thats a fact.

Smudger

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Re: Employing
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2013, 01:49:11 pm »
Why wouldn't you matt - you'd be so bored without us  :-*

I think Richards figures are very acceptable IMO

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

roundbuilder

Re: Employing
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2013, 02:29:39 pm »
That sounds like you're volunteering yourself for the role?

well i guess if the shoe fits...

2 guys working...   check
turning over £600/day...  check
£400 left after expences...  check

yep, that's me.

i guess you must be a muppet who's earning less then?  ;D
What 2 vans 1 man or 1 van 2 men??


Richard iSparkle

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Re: Employing
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2013, 02:52:07 pm »
That sounds like you're volunteering yourself for the role?

well i guess if the shoe fits...

2 guys working...   check
turning over £600/day...  check
£400 left after expences...  check

yep, that's me.

i guess you must be a muppet who's earning less then?  ;D
What 2 vans 1 man or 1 van 2 men??



one van & 2 men
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

8weekly

Re: Employing
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2013, 03:09:55 pm »
That sounds like you're volunteering yourself for the role?

well i guess if the shoe fits...

2 guys working...   check
turning over £600/day...  check
£400 left after expences...  check

yep, that's me.

i guess you must be a muppet who's earning less then?  ;D
You ain't turning over £600 per day at the speed you were going on that window on your website. I'd have done the house in the time it took you to clean that opener.  ;D


Richard iSparkle

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Re: Employing
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2013, 03:16:08 pm »
Sorry but i dont believe you!.
I have 2 men in van doing compact london domestic work, mainly fronts. All min £10 for fronts and £15-£20 full houses. 25-30 jobs per day get done no big jobs involved that lose time either.
On a realy good day they hit £400 Working 9-3 but there average is £300 day in day out between 2.
No way on this planet would they be able to do £600 day in day out nobody is that fit to keep that pace up 5 days a week!.
Its about time you wake up son and come back to the real world!.

If i have this wrong and your on about commercial then i apologise as i know that would be possible if you started at 5am each morning and finished at 5pm each night from domestics as i used to do that which would make it possible.


i'm not on about commercial no.  domestics my son.

so if we could combine your amazing results canvassing with our amazing results cleaning we would have a fantastic business wouldn't we.

the fact is, is i cannot see how you can get the results that you get canvassing.  i just cannot see it with dropoffs etc etc etc.  but that is what you say, so i can either decide to believe you and work out how you do get those results, or i could dismiss it as lies or whatever and carry on as we do. my guys start at 8:30 and finish typically at 4:30 on their £600 days.  on their own they do £400 within the same times.

as a matter of fact i can do the same myself as part of their team or on my own.  if you choose to dimiss it as rubbish then that is obviously your choice, and there's nothing i can do or say to change that is there?
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Employing
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2013, 03:18:37 pm »
That sounds like you're volunteering yourself for the role?

well i guess if the shoe fits...

2 guys working...   check
turning over £600/day...  check
£400 left after expences...  check

yep, that's me.

i guess you must be a muppet who's earning less then?  ;D
You ain't turning over £600 per day at the speed you were going on that window on your website. I'd have done the house in the time it took you to clean that opener.  ;D



you're quite right!  we don't go at that speed.  that video was just a tester that i put on my website and need to replace with something much better.

i wouldnt put up a video of how quick we clean though.  i don't think it would help us pick up customers.  once we 've got them as customers they stick with us on our results with their windows
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

roundbuilder

Re: Employing
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2013, 03:33:10 pm »
Sorry but i dont believe you!.
I have 2 men in van doing compact london domestic work, mainly fronts. All min £10 for fronts and £15-£20 full houses. 25-30 jobs per day get done no big jobs involved that lose time either.
On a realy good day they hit £400 Working 9-3 but there average is £300 day in day out between 2.
No way on this planet would they be able to do £600 day in day out nobody is that fit to keep that pace up 5 days a week!.
Its about time you wake up son and come back to the real world!.

If i have this wrong and your on about commercial then i apologise as i know that would be possible if you started at 5am each morning and finished at 5pm each night from domestics as i used to do that which would make it possible.


i'm not on about commercial no.  domestics my son.

so if we could combine your amazing results canvassing with our amazing results cleaning we would have a fantastic business wouldn't we.

the fact is, is i cannot see how you can get the results that you get canvassing.  i just cannot see it with dropoffs etc etc etc.  but that is what you say, so i can either decide to believe you and work out how you do get those results, or i could dismiss it as lies or whatever and carry on as we do. my guys start at 8:30 and finish typically at 4:30 on their £600 days.  on their own they do £400 within the same times.

as a matter of fact i can do the same myself as part of their team or on my own.  if you choose to dimiss it as rubbish then that is obviously your choice, and there's nothing i can do or say to change that is there?

Sorry to throw a spanner in the works but me getting 2/3 an hour canvassing isnt that great a thing at all and what isnt to believe about that??
im just enjoy it and motivate myself to go out and knock on targeted areas and doors and take a team out to build the numbers up on customers.
All straight forward without needing to ball poop! If i said i got 30 new customers a night then i would be liening but getting average 10-12 new cleans between 3 canvassers in 2 hours isnt out of this world like you quoting your guys do £600 day in day out in 1 van.
Total fair play if you have achieved that but i realy cant see how.
Anychance you could break down there typical days work which makes it easier to understand as £600 per day everyday is impossible for the other 99.999 percent of us window cleaners out here to achieve.
 

8weekly

Re: Employing
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2013, 03:39:38 pm »
I certainly couldn't do £400 per day on my own. It would kill me. I would think in a van with two that £400 should be achievable regularly if the work is well priced and compactish. Was it you Richard that had a guy running the hose for you? If I had that I reckon I could do near £400, but then it isn't on my own is it?

Smudger

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Re: Employing
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2013, 03:53:43 pm »
Impossible for 99.99999%

Err. Yeah okay

I'm not getting into the what's and why fors but if I had a 2 man team producing that I'd be looking for new staff ASAP as that figure is just a shade over 1 man's work

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

roundbuilder

Re: Employing
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2013, 04:03:43 pm »
Yes but im a realist and not a dreamer!! Im verey proud to be hitting £300-400 a day with 2 men in van working shortish days meaning never behind and catching up is reasonably easy thank you verey much!.
And yes 99.999 percent. i know many cleaners and none do £600 in a van per day. Only on ciu do people realy believe such garbage things are the norm. £600 day in day out is not the norm!.

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: Employing
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2013, 04:16:00 pm »
No, Mick you've got that wrong. It's only on CIU that people believe their own bull$hit.

Ol Dick Sparkle will tell us we can believe what we want, but I certainly know the fella who started this thread will be laughing his socks off at the claims made. Some on here are realistic some are idiotic.

formb

Re: Employing
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2013, 05:14:57 pm »
Not another willy waving thread  ::)roll

If you can do £600 a day, good for you. Why bother posting it on here though?

deeege

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Re: Employing
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2013, 05:31:26 pm »
Richard - how are you finding being VAT registered? When did you register?
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

britishwill

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Re: Employing
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2013, 05:45:59 pm »
Hi Richard. I would be interested how you coped with the VAT increase? I am at the VAT threshold and wanted to know did you increase everyones bill by 20% or did you go on the flat rate scheme. Any advice would be gratefully received. You must be turning over about £135000 inc holidays per annum. When does being VAT registered start paying for itself? 100k, 120K etc etc
Thank you very much
Will

Smudger

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Re: Employing
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2013, 06:26:22 pm »
No, Mick you've got that wrong. It's only on CIU that people believe their own bull$hit.

Ol Dick Sparkle will tell us we can believe what we want, but I certainly know the fella who started this thread will be laughing his socks off at the claims made. Some on here are realistic some are idiotic.

Says the man with an average clean of over £35 a d just doubled 180 quid clean to 360 as it is now trad...

The fact is we are so diverse an Industry you just have to take people at face value over the long run you can see by people's posts what their working level is like

I have upmost respect for matt and mick but Richards levels are not impossible

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

8weekly

Re: Employing
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2013, 06:50:42 pm »
No, Mick you've got that wrong. It's only on CIU that people believe their own bull$hit.

Ol Dick Sparkle will tell us we can believe what we want, but I certainly know the fella who started this thread will be laughing his socks off at the claims made. Some on here are realistic some are idiotic.

Says the man with an average clean of over £35 a d just doubled 180 quid clean to 360 as it is now trad...

The fact is we are so diverse an Industry you just have to take people at face value over the long run you can see by people's posts what their working level is like

I have upmost respect for matt and mick but Richards levels are not impossible

Darran
A high as £600 a day seems, £300 seems very low to me unless the two are doing other things like leafleting or canvassing. For an 8 hour day I'd have thought round here £400 should be a minimum for those hours.

Stephen.C

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Re: Employing
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2013, 06:57:50 pm »
Thanks for your input lads, shame it got a bit silly.
I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.

www.pureh2owindowcleaning.com

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: Employing
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2013, 07:17:42 pm »
doubled 180 quid clean to 360 as it is now trad...

It was £140 to £280.