[V_Purcell]

In an experiment in an earlier post which was locked, due to me not thinking, and by offering domain for sale to members, without the forum consent. Which is quite right, I have to admit.
I just did a quick experiment on getting www.carpetcleaningbexley.com on the first page of Google
I got 3 links from one domain pointing to the site, after 5 days, the site is ranked 7th on the first page.
This just goes to prove that keyword rich domains, do have an advantage despite what everyone thinks. This took just 5 days to do that, nothing complicated

[garry22]

Is this a serious post?

[wynne jones]

All it proves is the competition for the keyword is more sht than yours that's all.

[steve prince]

All it proves is the competition for the keyword is more sht than yours that's all.

Couldn't agree more

[V_Purcell]

Is this a serious post?

What gave you the idea it wasn't serious

[V_Purcell]

All it proves is the competition for the keyword is more sht than yours that's all.

It shows that the keyword in domain counts, that was my point.

[Mike Gwilliam]

you'v done well to get the page on page one, however......

You would need to get several landing pages on page one, near the top in different areas to get any traffic and then you would have to convert them into jobs.

I see several sites that do well in the rankings for several areas near, or at the top of page one. However, these sites with good ranking still have to resort to Adwords to get work, as many potential customers will not go further down the page unfortunately.

I would conclude that if you have site that ranks for page one in one town, half way down the page, it will hardly get any traffic.

[V_Purcell]

you'v done well to get the page on page one, however......

You would need to get several landing pages on page one, near the top in different areas to get any traffic and then you would have to convert them into jobs.

I see several sites that do well in the rankings for several areas near, or at the top of page one. However, these sites with good ranking still have to resort to Adwords to get work, as many potential customers will not go further down the page unfortunately.

I would conclude that if you have site that ranks for page one in one town, half way down the page, it will hardly get any traffic.

I would push it to the top, just to prove a point but I have another site ranking and do not want to bump that off, No 1 is king.
And it only took 5 days to get it indexed and onto the first page.
I just acquired the domain name www.carpetcleaninginlondon.com that's where I am concentrating my efforts now, its not in the first 250 yet.
The only way to get traffic is to be no1 and to be in Google local. But it is not hard. As it just took 1 domain to link back to my site. But I am targeting the keyword carpet cleaning in London, which is a heavy keyword to compete for but I am pretty sure I will get there. Google has had a lot of changes over the last 3 months, I lost ranking for carpet cleaning in London on my money site www.masterclean.com which was No1.

[Garyj]

Come back and show us again next week. Google is notorious for Page one rankings on new sites that then disappear without trace after a few days.

[garry22]

I cannot understand this business about only the site at no.1 getting traffic.

I also cannot understand why people are chasing just one key phrase. It does not make sense.

Analytics for one site I'm involved with tell me we had over six hundred different keyphrase searches that brought traffic to the site in one month.

[V_Purcell]

I cannot understand this business about only the site at no.1 getting traffic.

I also cannot understand why people are chasing just one key phrase. It does not make sense.

Analytics for one site I'm involved with tell me we had over six hundred different key-phrase searches that brought traffic to the site in one month.

If you are chasing carpet cleaning london, the amount of good quality links you need will be high, now Google knows that if all your links are carpet cleaning london, then this would be deemed unnatural linking and would get penalized by Google. You main keyword should be between 10-15% of all links, Now one of the best links now according to seo experts, is to get the naked url as the link
www.masterclean.com.
I have fell prey to this myself and I am no expert, and has cost me, one of my keywords, at No1 is worth £2500 a week, but I am hesitant to do more seo at the moment in case I get a Google slap, so I have a new domain and if that gets slapped, all is not lost.
But its easy with keyword rich domains, as these don't need a lot of links pointing back, but you have hosting, privacy and website design cost.
So it can be expensive. But is really effective is you are an owner operator and do not cover a real big area.

[garry22]

Vernon,

Unless you've had a warning in Google Webmasters or a manual review, then the drop is probably due to an algorithm change rather than a slap.

I've got Masterclean at just outside the top ten. A slap would normally result in a substantial drop (maybe six pages at least). one of mine in the US that got an over optimisation penalty dropped about six hundred positions after Penguin 1. It's risen about four to five hundred following Penguin 2.0 but I'm pretty sure the domain is effectively toxic now.

As you say, you probably need a load more raw and related links now (built slowly!).

[V_Purcell]

Vernon,

Unless you've had a warning in Google Webmasters or a manual review, then the drop is probably due to an algorithm change rather than a slap.

I've got Masterclean at just outside the top ten. A slap would normally result in a substantial drop (maybe six pages at least). one of mine in the US that got an over optimization penalty dropped about six hundred positions after Penguin 1. It's risen about four to five hundred following Penguin 2.0 but I'm pretty sure the domain is effectively toxic now.

As you say, you probably need a load more raw and related links now (built slowly!).

Yea thats is what I call a slap ( a slap down ) how ever one site was slapped into orbit, however it wasn't deindexed which is a penaty, I actual got Masterclean to No1 world wide, but stopped as I had a lot of wasted traffic. Now we are just concentrate on real targeted keywords. Google now are offering a submission service, that you can submit your links to them, and they will disregard them.

[Mike Gwilliam]

It's a funny thing the google penalty.... i got slapped last year and just discovered that my (then) great webmaster created many spamy incoming links to which I now have to disavow as the the host to the articles are non contactable.

On the other hand, i created a web site last year which is quite sparse with no incoming links and is doing quite well.

My new seo girl, who seems to have a google engineered brain says she does not promote any incoming links to her web sites and they are all doing well.

I think that if google sees you are trying to manipulate your ranking in any way, you WILL get slapped!

[garry22]

Personally, I think the disallow tool was a masterstroke by Google.

They were sending out unnatural linking notices and then saying.... "tell us which links YOU think are causing the problem"(paraphrased).

A lot of people panicked and volunteered loads of sites. This allowed Google to take down some pretty big private blog networks. Genius.

[V_Purcell]

Thats why Matt Cutts from Google's anti spam team get paid so much.

[V_Purcell]

There it is No1 in Google with a few links pointed at it, Its actually beaten another site I have on Page 1

[V_Purcell]

Come back and show us again next week. Google is notorious for Page one rankings on new sites that then disappear without trace after a few days.

Look at my previous post

[Acom Cleaning]

The reponses to this post ar ridiculous posted by people who know nothing pertaining to how to rank on page one for a carpet cleaning website. Of course its all subjective and a matter of opinion but you are all wrong. Keyword rich domains DO rank far easiar and that's fact, even more so when hardly any seo has been done and they stay there, fact. We paid alex from alloy thousands of pounds for design and seo with NO results. Finally we built our own site with the city keyword in the domain and the correct ratio of keywords in the text and bingo within 5 weeks we are on page one for everyrhing and top for many keywords. And before all the 'experts' say ...bullpoop, we are not prepared to say who we are and our domain because the lot of you will copy exactly what we have done.... So work it out for yourselves..... There is absolutley no such thing as SEO any more and the sooner you all relaise it the better for you all. Design a sound website with the correct ratio of keywords and a keyword rich domain, forget blogs and links cos they don't work. Make your script to the point, honest and natural and you WILL rank..... Design and structure as well as the correct coding is all that is needed and required, and that's that.

[Carpet Dawg]

so what happens when 9 of your other competitors also start using the correct keyword density, keyword in the titles, keyword in the domain, the correct website structure etc etc << this is all SEO by the way! The thing you said is dead lol.

So what happens then? who will be top?