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sunshine windows

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Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« on: July 27, 2013, 06:36:05 pm »
Which of these methods do you feel you can charge/earn the most amount of money on per hour.

The only reason I ask is that I got the ladders out the other day, as a one off for a lady that insisted having them cleaned trad. Her old window cleaner converted to wfp and she reckons they were misting up because of it.

I normally turn trad work away but thought what the heck and charged her £60 for the privilege.

So, because more and more start up window cleaners are going straight in for wfp, is there a niche appearing in the market where you can charge over the odds for an old school window cleaning because they are becoming few and far between?
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DG Cleaning

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 06:38:39 pm »
I'm the only wfp guy in my immediate area I've never seen anyone else use a pole yet. ;D

dave0123

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 06:43:11 pm »
omg did you use your yellow mat under the ladder? for passes by  ::)roll
Dave.

sunshine windows

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 06:45:39 pm »
Whether its because Swindon is home to ionics, but there appear to be floods of pole users here. I reckon I see a new outfit around every other week on my travels.
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sunshine windows

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 06:46:15 pm »
Wrong 'Sunshine' Dave
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
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dave0123

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 06:50:06 pm »
sorry mate  :)  .. wonder if he does use it under his ladder though  ;D
Dave.

PoleKing

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2013, 07:14:25 pm »
There's definitely a premium to be charged round here.
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DG Cleaning

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2013, 07:31:39 pm »
They'd look at me as if I was some kind of idiot in my neck of the woods.
I do get asked if I charge more for using the pole however ;D

AuRavelling79

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2013, 09:10:20 pm »
Which of these methods do you feel you can charge/earn the most amount of money on per hour.

The only reason I ask is that I got the ladders out the other day, as a one off for a lady that insisted having them cleaned trad. Her old window cleaner converted to wfp and she reckons they were misting up because of it.

I normally turn trad work away but thought what the heck and charged her £60 for the privilege


So, because more and more start up window cleaners are going straight in for wfp, is there a niche appearing in the market where you can charge over the odds for an old school window cleaning because they are becoming few and far between?

How big was the property?
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David Kent @ KentKleen

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 09:15:48 pm »
I find there is a BIG 'niche' for decent wfp operators! Love all the pole wavers around here!  ;)

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2013, 09:39:24 pm »
Yes there is definitely a niche. Not saying you can charge over the odds on every property to revert back to cleaning windows traditionally but there are instances which crop up.

The most recent for us was a large out in the sticks pad, managed by an estate management  company. We've been doing this place for 3 years, never a complaint. They called me up after the last clean voicing concern about the method cleaning, condition of the frames and could we revert to cleaning the windows traditionally and dispense with the pole.

My response was patient and I considered their request.  I then told them the cost would be twice what it was with the pole to which they agreed. So a £140 job will now a £280 job, probably done in 3 hours. I'm not complaining.

rosskesava

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2013, 10:46:29 pm »
I double the price for doing a job trad

Earlier this year I quoted one huge place and I gave a price way on the high side as she said she'd had a few window cleaners previously who'd done a bad job using wfp.

Then she says about not using that pole thing.

I explained about the extra time taken cleaning windows trad style, and giving a satisfaction guarantee with my wfp work and she still wanted the job done trad so I doubled the price and to my astonishment, she was quite happy to pay.

I was more than happy as well.

Five cleans on, she is still happy to pay.


 
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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2013, 09:31:53 am »


 WFP IS KILLING THE GAME

G Griffin

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2013, 09:49:37 am »
All things considered, I trad is better than wfp but a pole is better than a ladder to work with.
But then wfp is better than a trad pole.
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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2013, 02:58:09 pm »
Matt - now that's what I'm talking about!!! 

Gold - average detached with conservatory. Took about an hour, so in reality I can earn more per hour on most of my regular work. This was priced as a one off although she said she'd like it 3 times a year, which I doubt.
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Richard iSparkle

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2013, 07:44:46 pm »
I definitely think there's a niche for a professional service offering trad cleans but priced at the same hourly rate as you'd get WFP. 

We have no plans to offer it ourselves

Saying that we charge £55 for a one off already WFP. And that's min price
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sunshine windows

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 08:24:05 pm »
Wow Richard, £55 min for a one off. I thought I priced fairly high in comparison to most. My minimum for a one off on a small 2 bed is £25.
To climb mount fuji you must first find a path
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www.sunshinesoftwashing.co.uk

d s windowcleaning

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2013, 08:27:30 pm »
I'm the only wfp guy in my immediate area I've never seen anyone else use a pole yet. ;D
was you working down near wombwell on Friday morning ?
where theres muck theres money

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2013, 09:46:45 pm »
Wow Richard, £55 min for a one off. I thought I priced fairly high in comparison to most. My minimum for a one off on a small 2 bed is £25.

I just don't think they're worth doing unless you charge high. Once you've got travel to and from it, possible call backs from WFP problems, and the hassle factor...  It needs to be high to make me want to do it.
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DG Cleaning

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Re: Trad vs wfp debate (round 99999999)
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2013, 09:52:06 pm »
I'm the only wfp guy in my immediate area I've never seen anyone else use a pole yet. ;D
was you working down near wombwell on Friday morning ?

No had this week off why?