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Doug Holloway

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Ozone
« on: July 27, 2013, 08:03:36 am »
Hi Guys

I am thinking of buying an Ozone generator.

Can anyone recommend one?

Cheers

Doug

Russ Chadd

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 04:43:57 pm »
I purchased one from EBay... Came from Poland and cost me £250 delivered.
So far it has been fine, build quality looks good... Only purchased it to work in cars and small rooms so wasn't looking for anything too powerful but it claims to have an output of 10g

http://bit.ly/12SXAlX

Mr Dvae

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 05:27:55 pm »
How much do you charge for the service you provide with the ozone machine? ie how do you work out prices?

Dave

Garyj

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 06:38:08 pm »
That must be a good machine Russ, I see it also purifies Muff.

How do you broach the subject of muff odour with your clients without
them getting upset and taking it personally?

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 08:23:14 pm »
I'm not sure that it could clean all variations of muff smells.

Shaun

Russ Chadd

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2013, 07:49:23 am »
Yes... I can confirm that it can deal with the smell if muff... After a marathon session in my love pad... The machine did a splendid job!! :-)
Seriously...
This is the first ozone machine I have used so I can't compare it to any other model, at half power it fills a small room with ozone very quickly...

Doug Holloway

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 10:49:17 am »
Hi Russ

Thanks for your replies.

Why would you use it at half power?

Cheers

Doug


john rees

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 07:45:34 am »
I bought one of those polish machines too, but i went for the 14000mg machine, it works fine for small rooms,it's very much the same a much more expensive machines, some say they dont produce as high an ozone output as they claim, but there is an easy way to check, just look at the voltage of the transformers inside, if they are 10,000v that will be 10,000mg of ozone, mine is 14000v so 14000mg of ozone, the worst thing about most ozone machines is the tiny little computer fan that is used by them. mine has plenty of output and after a few uses my rubber feet on the machine perished and fell off! at least it proves it works I suppose, as ozone destroys rubber after a time.lol ;D
   We also use much bigger output machines(42000mg) that we have adapted to force ozone into carpets that have urine or other nasties in them!and ozone is the strongest cleaning agent known(acts over 3000times faster than chlorine), so use the proper breathing gear if you have to enter the room when running!
                  
                                                                  all the best
                                                                                    John.
john

maxcampbell

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 08:03:31 am »
John
How long do you leave the machines running to control urine odour in rooms? Is there a possibility of bleaching the carpet?

john rees

  • Posts: 391
Re: Ozone
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2013, 08:13:40 am »
Hi there! We don't leave the machine in the house, we force the ozone into the carpet using a wand, usually 4 or 5 slow passes usually does it.We use it along with an enzyme. I suppose if you left the machine running for hours in a room with damp carpet it might bleach it, but in the 7 years i've been doing it I've never seen it happen.The more powerful the ozone machine is the less time you need to run it.
                        All the best
                                        John
john

David Ware

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2013, 08:27:40 am »
I bought one of those polish machines too, but i went for the 14000mg machine, it works fine for small rooms,it's very much the same a much more expensive machines, some say they dont produce as high an ozone output as they claim, but there is an easy way to check, just look at the voltage of the transformers inside, if they are 10,000v that will be 10,000mg of ozone, mine is 14000v so 14000mg of ozone, the worst thing about most ozone machines is the tiny little computer fan that is used by them. mine has plenty of output and after a few uses my rubber feet on the machine perished and fell off! at least it proves it works I suppose, as ozone destroys rubber after a time.lol ;D
   We also use much bigger output machines(42000mg) that we have adapted to force ozone into carpets that have urine or other nasties in them!and ozone is the strongest cleaning agent known(acts over 3000times faster than chlorine), so use the proper breathing gear if you have to enter the room when running!
                  
                                                                  all the best
                                                                                    John.

Very good reply
David

Russ Chadd

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2013, 07:46:04 pm »
Hi John

Really interesting post mate.. thanks for that!
Today i used my machine in a fairly large conservatory, left it running for an hour and when i returned the room was full of ozone and dead flies on the window sill!

So far i like the machine and i would think you would struggle to get a better one for that price! 

Nick Attwood

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2013, 08:53:16 pm »
Think I was the first to buy one of these, and having used others can’t say I’m very impressed! The out put is way under what is quoted the build quality i.e.. case etc i think is good but think the components its made from are poor.. Really does depend on what you want to use it for, but I would/will spend extra and buy with confidence in the very near future.

Its up to you…….

john rees

  • Posts: 391
Re: Ozone
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2013, 09:06:59 pm »
For the money they are great little machines but there are better ones but for a lot more money! It's all down to output, there are machines costing 4 times as much with lesser output, it's a massive market out there too, but not many cleaners take advantage of it? It works in all properties with or without carpets. We find it particularly useful for killing mould in properties have had cavity wall insulation that has gone wrong! And there are loads of those! It will kill anything that requires air to survive. If you are not having the output you want are you using it correctly? are you sealing the room when you use it? for the ozone to work at its best it needs oxygen, so you need to open a window a little so the machine draws the air from outside. if you don't the ozone going back through the machine will produce nitrous oxide instead.

                                                                           John
john

john rees

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2013, 09:23:26 pm »
the other thing I forgot to say is ozone is heavier than air so you need to place the machine up as high as possible especially if you are using it for mould or smoke damage.we have tried step ladders but commerical speaker stands work best with a little adaption. ;D
                                                                            John
john

Nick Attwood

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2013, 09:32:02 pm »
Agree with everything you said John, we also always have air movers in place which I find helps but just not sure these machines are great! Yes you get your moneys worth and by no means imply they are a rip off just not personally impressed.

john rees

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2013, 09:42:25 pm »
Hi Nick. I'm not sure about the £250 machine I never bought one of those, I went for the more expesive ones and that seems ok.

                       John
john

John Kelly

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2013, 11:08:25 pm »
People should realise that although Ozone will kill mould, the underlying cause needs to be rectified and the dead mould needs to be removed. It is the chemical constituents of the spores either dead or alive which produce the mycotoxins which are so harmfull.

Russ Chadd

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2013, 01:13:32 am »
This 10g machine i purchased for £250 seems to work ok, the build quality looks fine and to be honest it was purchased to deal with odours in cars and small rooms.
John has written some very interesting posts here and i am still learning about how to use the machine and get the best results.
John Kelly supplied me with the Craftex pre enzyme which i use in the cleaning process... bloody great product

Doug Holloway

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Re: Ozone
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 07:45:28 am »
Thanks for some interesting replies.

John and Nick, which machine would you recommend?

Cheers

Doug