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dawsons

  • Posts: 28
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2013, 09:08:28 pm »
We run a TM and portables of various sizes. Even using a TM it takes us 40 mins to prep a 2 bedroom flat, often longer, then the time to clean the carpets properly. Anyone saying different is very misleading, misguided or so far up their behinds  ::)roll

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2013, 09:15:58 pm »
Prep should be same for both the actually cleaning and or flushing with spot removal is greatly quicker.

Shaun

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2013, 09:17:39 pm »
Now, now, no need to be insulting, just because people have a different experience of doing the same thing you do only differently, doesn't make them wrong, or as you put it up their own behinds.

Simon

Radek Jablonski

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2013, 10:21:30 pm »
not saying that is completaly the same, TM to a good portable, but not that much different, 3-4 times, be real.
Karcher contra your TM yep, not the one like Enforcer or Storm to the TM, Still a lot of setting of the equipment to do the proper job. Good porty use the same water pressure as your TM on the carpets,  suction? many says that many TM are not even stronger then Jag, Scorpion, storm etc.




Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2013, 10:46:30 pm »
I've had a jag and I also run a smaller tm the difference is unbelievable, I often think about buying a smaller van and putting a 'top end' porty in it sure would be cheaper to run but I know that I would have to cut down on my work load.

I would go on to say that my tm can clean twice as fast as the jag I had.

Shaun

Darren O

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2013, 10:54:45 pm »
Had my truckmount a year now and the difference is massive compared to my porty but still don't have a problem when I have to use the Powerflight.

Dave Roelants

  • Posts: 289
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2013, 11:11:47 pm »
on the very rare occasion I use a portable I can't believe how long it takes to mix up the chemicals, fill the darned thing up and then empty it, oh and the annoyance of throwing lots  of chemical away every time, none of you portable users seem to take this into account when you're talking about "cleaning" time
Best Regards, Dave,
Lakeland Carpet Cleaning, 1st in the UK with 4 to the door!

john martin

  • Posts: 2699
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2013, 11:18:30 pm »

 Mytee escape is the only plug in production thing approaching comparable performance ...  provided you can get decent heat out of it .

Richard Joyce

  • Posts: 127
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2013, 11:21:56 pm »
So to get back on topic, could I use a storm on a double socket but add my magma heater on so three plugs on a double sock using a adaptor ?

john martin

  • Posts: 2699
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2013, 11:36:48 pm »
So to get back on topic, could I use a storm on a double socket but add my magma heater on so three plugs on a double sock using a adaptor ?

try it and see   :)   in theory you shouldn't  , i reality it not much may happen in a modern house ... watch for heat on the adapter plug .
cant be much more hassle to plug the heater in elsewhere though . 

Richard Joyce

  • Posts: 127
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2013, 11:59:46 pm »
Your right its just some times it wouldn't reach so it would be handy to use a adaptor

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2013, 07:38:40 am »
not saying that is completaly the same, TM to a good portable, but not that much different, 3-4 times, be real.
Karcher contra your TM yep, not the one like Enforcer or Storm to the TM, Still a lot of setting of the equipment to do the proper job. Good porty use the same water pressure as your TM on the carpets,  suction? many says that many TM are not even stronger then Jag, Scorpion, storm etc.

Radek,
We're talking about machines that can clean two and three areas of carpet simultaneously, I have yet to come across a high end portable that can do that with 500 feet of hoses on it, of course TM's are more powerful, that's the whole point of them.



Simon

jim mca

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2013, 05:13:49 pm »
Radek

There is small TMs and there are big TMs the same as single vac portables and triple or 6,6 twins
having seen Simons I would not dispute his times he would be running a 2 or 3 man team with 2 wands on the go or rx20s if area big enough



*Hector*

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2013, 05:19:00 pm »
Everyday this forum slips further from God.  :'(

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2013, 07:08:57 pm »
It's all about being as efficient as possible. I know some might think 40 minutes or so for a 2 bed apartment is ultra fast and therefore we must be cutting corners. No chance. We are just extremely efficient at what we do and every process is thought through to streamline the whole operation and then use the raw performance of the TM to do things a lot faster and to a far higher standard.

Simon

Radek Jablonski

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2013, 07:09:27 pm »
Simon, I know you have the beast on your van
and yes I am talking about TM that most of CC have and about one operator at time

dawsons

  • Posts: 28
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2013, 10:48:22 pm »
40 mins to fully prep & clean a 2 bedroom flat

(running hoses in, move furniture, vacuum, pre-spray, aggitate, spot, dwell time & rinse)

Yeah right mate, dream dream dream..............

Do you have a normal sized head?

Shaun_Ashmore

  • Posts: 11382
Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2013, 10:54:50 pm »
Anyone who knows Simon will tell you his head IS massive but if you get 2 people working in harmony (well doing what Simon says) then it is achievable.

Shaun

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2013, 09:57:43 am »
Shaun,
It's not about being big headed or bragging. It is about how you go about doing things, what processes, chemicals, techniques and temperatures you use to make the whole operation as efficient as possible, whilst not compromising on the quality of the end product. There no point in having a formula one system that you drive like a Robin Reliant.

Simon

John Kelly

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Re: Understanding portables
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2013, 10:37:51 am »
I could clean an unfurnished 4 bedroomed house end of tenancy in 55 minutes with a truckmount.
The cleaners had generally been in before me and vacuumed and dusted the whole place so it was a matter of pre-spraying the carpets and rinsing off. Job done, happy agent, clean carpets money in the pocket.
A truckmount is a totally different beast to even the most powerfull portable. The pump and blower have far more capacity than electric equivalents. They speed up the job no-end. They are not for everyone and most portables are very good and do a great job. I know locally the guys who get through the most work have truckmounts OR bonnet clean :o
One guy cleaned 43 carpets last Monday.