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davids3511

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New guy on sick already
« on: July 08, 2013, 10:14:41 am »
Started 2 weeks ago today. Been going ok, picking it up pretty well. Got text yesterday morning -

Hi, Hurt my leg Friday night. Been to hospital and nothing is broken but its very painful to walk. Will let you know when I can come back to work.


What would you do? Do I sack and start over again or give him the benefit of the doubt?

steve123

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 10:24:48 am »
Ask for a letter from his doctor

home6442

Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2013, 10:33:09 am »
It can happen Im off sick today myself just when the weather couldn't be better.
How did he work over the first two weeks if he grafted well then I would tend to believe him.
If it were to happen again say in a few weeks time then I would rethink his position.

Mike #1

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 10:37:59 am »
A text says it all Liar if he cant ring you up and explain exactly what has happened then game over .

Sack him and move on . Mike

Smudger

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 10:41:03 am »
and i would in future ask him to RING and speak to you if he is off email not text - sometimes if someone is swinging the lead, its too easy just to text. If he has worked well in the two weeks, benefit of doubt, but give him a ring this morning, and see how he is feeling today? And ask him to PHONE you tomorrow before work to keep you in the picture (I would ask him to phone before work each day he is off) Obviously with an established employee with good track record, i would not ask them to call in everyday :)
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

ben M

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 10:42:38 am »
and i would in future ask him to RING and speak to you if he is off email not text - sometimes if someone is swinging the lead, its too easy just to text. If he has worked well in the two weeks, benefit of doubt, but give him a ring this morning, and see how he is feeling today? And ask him to PHONE you tomorrow before work to keep you in the picture (I would ask him to phone before work each day he is off) Obviously with an established employee with good track record, i would not ask them to call in everyday :)
good advice actually  ;)

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 11:02:05 am »
I would suggest a home visit under the guise of being a caring sharing employer. If he is swinging the lead you will know it and more importantly he will know you are not a mug to be ped around with. If he is genuinely ill then you can help him and be a top end bloke in his book. and he will work all the harder for you when he gets back..
Only get rid when you know he is taking teh p or is a poop worker..

davids3511

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 11:26:19 am »
Have a little bit more info now from someone who knows him. Apparently he had a few beers Friday evening, got home and realised he didn't have his key. Top window was open so tried to climb up and in. Didn't manage it (maybe due to the 7 pints he reportedly had in him) and one ambulance trip later he isn't fit for work.

Knocker

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 11:28:58 am »
Hat rack him instantly

Jim Waugh(Albright & Shiny)

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 11:33:44 am »
Why would you automatically sack him...  is he any good as a worker. Other than this instance is there anything else to his detriment... You could play this to your advantag if he was a keeper.. a bit of sympathy and support could make hime very loyal if he is a goodun.
If he is unwilling, slow with a poop attitude then get rid. If he has potential keep him..
If he does it again get rid.


Mike #1

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 11:37:54 am »
Good to know he is not lying , You should have a chat with him about what you expect of him in certain  circumstances and that been open and honest and communicating properly .

Will enable the both of you to earn the trust and respect of each other . Mike

Knocker

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 11:44:09 am »
Trust me i have empoyed many window cleaners and if he cant sring two weeks together he is no use.

davids3511

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 11:56:22 am »
Why would you automatically sack him...  is he any good as a worker. Other than this instance is there anything else to his detriment... You could play this to your advantag if he was a keeper.. a bit of sympathy and support could make hime very loyal if he is a goodun.
If he is unwilling, slow with a poop attitude then get rid. If he has potential keep him..
If he does it again get rid.


In the two weeks he was spot on. On time or early every day, listened to what I told him and worked well. I'm inclined to give he a chance and see how he works out.

Ian101

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 12:22:33 pm »
If he asks for sick pay tell him to go to dss to claim as u don't have to pay it

Paul Coleman

Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2013, 12:24:41 pm »
Have a little bit more info now from someone who knows him. Apparently he had a few beers Friday evening, got home and realised he didn't have his key. Top window was open so tried to climb up and in. Didn't manage it (maybe due to the 7 pints he reportedly had in him) and one ambulance trip later he isn't fit for work.

should have used wfp

SPE

Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2013, 01:23:43 pm »
must admit when I first read this sounded like a lame excuse what with happening on a Friday and the hot weather over the weekend and into this week, many will be pulling "sickies" today.
But its sounding now like its genuine excuse.
And from what you say about the previous two weeks sounds like he is worth keeping.
Simon

wfp master

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2013, 01:49:17 pm »
Sack him.

SPE

Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2013, 01:50:46 pm »

wfp master

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Re: New guy on sick already
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2013, 01:55:05 pm »