[R.C Property]

OK Richard, i have been in the industry for over 30 years and as i said i was happy to share my experience of working with high alkaline based harsh cleaning chemicals. why not lets agree to disagree on this one.
As the saying goes  A PERSON CHANGED AGAINST THEIR WILL IS OF THE SAME OPINION STILL.
I certainly dont want people thinking that i am ramming advice down their throats.

yer thats fine, but so far in the 16 years that i have had dealing with cleaning products, not at much as you as i wasnt using them day in day out personally, but in the workplace there have been used for years with no problems. you are the only one that i have heard of that has had problems with damaged surfaces thats all, just intrested why that could of been? was the wrong products being used on things? or if you had to mix you own with water then was the mixing right? finding out these could help others too. not saying it was user error or chemical error.

[Trev Jones]

Lets put this in some perspective 
These chemicals we use are used maybe once in a year on a conservatory roof or a first clean or someones fascias, soffits or gutters which the normal practice is to rinse all remnants of the chemical off. Its not as if we are using the chemicals as part of our everyday maintenance cleans, imo I think there is a bit of scaremongory going on and as I've said needs to be put in some perspective in to just how much we use these chemicals on our customers properties.

[R.C Property]

Lets put this in some perspective 
These chemicals we use are used maybe once in a year on a conservatory roof or a first clean or someones fascias, soffits or gutters which the normal practice is to rinse all remnants of the chemical off. Its not as if we are using the chemicals as part of our everyday maintenance cleans, imo I think there is a bit of scaremongory going on and as I've said needs to be put in some perspective in to just how much we use these chemicals on our customers properties.

thats so true!

[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi Richard, one of the reasons we stopped trusting the big chemical producing companies was because they informed us for many years that their chemicals were safe to use, this is not so true when you look into further the caustic and corrosive ingredients that they use to produce their harsh cleaning chemicals, We took on faith for many years their reps advice that their products were safe and effective, yes they were effective alright in causing detrimental damage to our clients surfaces. It took us many years to cop on to their crapology and this is why we would never trust these large companies who have huge budgets for marketing and can fool many people in the industry. Just look at the largest selling cleaning brand on the domestic market in Europe (i will just use the word BANG) these companies spend millions on their advertising campaigns but never worry about the damage their harsh cleaning chemicals cause to surfaces. That is why i would always recommend to check the msds for any product you are going to use on clients surfaces.

[R.C Property]

Hi Richard, one of the reasons we stopped trusting the big chemical producing companies was because they informed us for many years that their chemicals were safe to use, this is not so true when you look into further the caustic and corrosive ingredients that they use to produce their harsh cleaning chemicals, We took on faith for many years their reps advice that their products were safe and effective, yes they were effective alright in causing detrimental damage to our clients surfaces. It took us many years to cop on to their crapology and this is why we would never trust these large companies who have huge budgets for marketing and can fool many people in the industry. Just look at the largest selling cleaning brand on the domestic market in Europe (i will just use the word BANG) these companies spend millions on their advertising campaigns but never worry about the damage their harsh cleaning chemicals cause to surfaces. That is why i would always recommend to check the msds for any product you are going to use on clients surfaces.

so you are saying that it was the companies fault for selling chemicals that are unsafe and they damage surfaces and not user error or wrong products used?

[Tadgh O Shea]

OK Richard, lets be fair i have shared my experience from using high alkaline based harsh cleaning chemicals which are produced by many of the larger chemical manufactures in our industry. i have shared my experiences in the hope that it can be of benefit to others on this forum as i have picked up many shared experiences from other members on the CIU forum which have been of benefit to our company. I have spelt out my findings and to be fair its up to each person which cleaning products they prefer to use.

[R.C Property]

G101 - first words on the label NON CAUSTIC

Surely if a company produces a cosh sheet and lie about the product then they will be open for prosecution?

have you read the Coshh sheet for this  it says:-  

risk phrases:- R38: irritating to skin, R41 Risk of serious damage to eyes

Saftey phrases:- S24/25 Avoid contact with skin and eyes, S64 If swallowed, rinse mouth with water (only if the person is conscious)

so thats another one that has got worse risk than the one i use! at least mine wont send you blind if you get it in your eyes!

but yes if the COSHH sheet is wrong then they could be open for prosecution.

[Dave Willis]

Yes, I read it but I deleted the post after. It was aimed at Tadge wotshisname originally but then I thought - can't be bothered with this. 

[R.C Property]

OK Richard, lets be fair i have shared my experience from using high alkaline based harsh cleaning chemicals which are produced by many of the larger chemical manufactures in our industry. i have shared my experiences in the hope that it can be of benefit to others on this forum as i have picked up many shared experiences from other members on the CIU forum which have been of benefit to our company. I have spelt out my findings and to be fair its up to each person which cleaning products they prefer to use.

yes you have siad that these ones are bad and has damage to things, so you say, but not answered or said anything else to back it up, and pushed your products! only word that pops up is sales man!!!!!  like i said your the only one that has ever had these problems to my knowledge.

if you want to share experience then tell us more about what went wrong for you?
what was damaged? how was it? was it user error? using the wrong chemical on the surface?

[R.C Property]

Yes, I read it but I deleted the post after. It was aimed at Tadge wotshisname originally but then I thought - can't be bothered with this. 

lol well it is a monday morning! lol