[Ian101]

Been using eco cover for a while but about to run out.

Are they basically all the same stuff or has anyone noticed a definate improvement with either of these ?

[colin purewater]

Good morning  Ian,


I use all if the above but I only use ecover (if you mean
On conny roofs etc) if I've ran out of viro-sol  and/ or using
A customers tap

Reason being I think it take loads of rinsing to
Get all the ecover of and will waste to much from
my tank, compared to virosol which I think
Comes if quite easy

We shouldn't ever really run out of this stuff
As ecover is about £2 and viro-sol is about £7 a gallon

[Dave Willis]

G101 for me these days. Expensive, but a bit better as you can froth the stuff up into a foam on the finials and leave to soak.
Virosol is handy for dissolving insect poo,

[Smudger]

Like Dave my current solution of choice is g101 works
 better overall than any of the other non caustic cleaners

Darran

[Smudger]

Ps  I'd only buy the autosmart brand others tend to be a 'weaker'
Solution

[bobplum]

bleach and fairy

[deeege]

I've moved onto virosol from ubik. I think it removes dirt a bit better but the main reason I prefer it is it doesn't matter if it drys. If you let ubik dry on glass you have got a major problem to remove it.

[dazmond]

virosol ian.that conny roof i cleaned yesterday came up fantastic.sorry didnt take any pics.it took me an hour.£60.

i bought four 5 litre tubs last year.ive still got loads left!you dont need much in a pressure sprayer.about £6-50 a tub from Aardvark cleaning supplies in warrington.

best wishes


dazmond

[Bingweed]

When people use ecover do they mean the washing up liquid or the all purpose cleaner ?

[Ian101]

When people use ecover do they mean the washing up liquid or the all purpose cleaner ?

tfr

[Ian101]

thanks fellas gonna get some virosol 

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

Lol

[Ian101]

Lol

 

[R.C Property]

this stuff is great, works a lot quicker.


Selden Maxima video can bee seen of me working with it here: -

http://youtu.be/E_1knJZyynY

can buy it here:-
http://rcpropertymaintenance.vpweb.co.uk/Cleaning-Supplies.html

[simonr]

rc s your stuff any good on upvc,

[R.C Property]

rc s your stuff any good on upvc,

works well with the gutters, soffit and fascia i have used it on.
upvc front doors and windows where those little groves are (between the frame and the piece that holds the glass in) with the green in there i have sprayed this on and brushed it off with no problem at all.

[Tadgh O Shea]

Hi Guys, All the products i have heard mentioned on this topic are caustic and corrosive based and will cause detrimental damage to your clients surfaces, I am only sharing this from my own experiences over the years, as i have to put my hand up i also used high alkaline based cleaners for many years but i could clearly see that these harsh cleaning chemicals were causing damage to my clients surfaces from continuous use. of course the companies supplying me with these harsh cleaning chemicals never warned me about the damage they could cause as they were only worried about the sale and their bottom line.
I got so fed up of not being able to find a safer cleaning solution that i went on a misson to find safer cleaning solutions, i came across a chemist in the USA who specialized in organic chemistry and he explained to me that if you want to use safe cleaning solutions on your clients surfaces just check the ph value which is stated on the msds  of the cleaning product, he suggested that if the ph value is 10 or over its highly alkaline based and safer not to use these type harsh cleaning chemicals especially if they are over 10 on the ph scale. He also recommended staying away from harsh cleaning chemicals that had a ph value of 5.5 or under as these type cleaners are acidic based and can attack surfaces but again the ones that are under 5.5 are really harmful to surfaces. For many years now we have moved away from promoting or using any of these harsh cleaning chemicals, our preferred cleaning solutions now are based on colloidal micelles technology, one of this centuries most promising advances in environmental science.
these are non-caustic,non-corrosive, and non-toxic. so not only safer for your clients surfaces, but also for your own health and safety. if you google micelles cleaning technology you will find many reputable janitorial suppliers in the UK are stocking these safe cleaning solutions. I am sure there are also other janitorial suppliers also have  safer cleaning technologies available in the UK other than the harsh cleaning chemicals which are available mainstream. I know some guys wont care what they use as long as it cleans just said i would share my own thoughts from having over 30 years experience in the industry, hope that they can be of benefit to some of you.

[R.C Property]

Hi Guys, All the products i have heard mentioned on this topic are caustic and corrosive based and will cause detrimental damage to your clients surfaces, I am only sharing this from my own experiences over the years, as i have to put my hand up i also used high alkaline based cleaners for many years but i could clearly see that these harsh cleaning chemicals were causing damage to my clients surfaces from continuous use. of course the companies supplying me with these harsh cleaning chemicals never warned me about the damage they could cause as they were only worried about the sale and their bottom line.
I got so fed up of not being able to find a safer cleaning solution that i went on a misson to find safer cleaning solutions, i came across a chemist in the USA who specialized in organic chemistry and he explained to me that if you want to use safe cleaning solutions on your clients surfaces just check the ph value which is stated on the msds  of the cleaning product, he suggested that if the ph value is 10 or over its highly alkaline based and safer not to use these type harsh cleaning chemicals especially if they are over 10 on the ph scale. He also recommended staying away from harsh cleaning chemicals that had a ph value of 5.5 or under as these type cleaners are acidic based and can attack surfaces but again the ones that are under 5.5 are really harmful to surfaces. For many years now we have moved away from promoting or using any of these harsh cleaning chemicals, our preferred cleaning solutions now are based on colloidal micelles technology, one of this centuries most promising advances in environmental science.
these are non-caustic,non-corrosive, and non-toxic. so not only safer for your clients surfaces, but also for your own health and safety. if you google micelles cleaning technology you will find many reputable janitorial suppliers in the UK are stocking these safe cleaning solutions. I am sure there are also other janitorial suppliers also have  safer cleaning technologies available in the UK other than the harsh cleaning chemicals which are available mainstream. I know some guys wont care what they use as long as it cleans just said i would share my own thoughts from having over 30 years experience in the industry, hope that they can be of benefit to some of you.

the one i use and selling,  is used on all floor and wall types, in many kitchens and for deep cleaning food plant machinery. there is one more stronger liquid than the one i use that is used in the cleaning of the wheetabix factory machines.

After a phone call from the people that actually make it they dont see any problems with it using in in the ways for what we would use them!

[Tadgh O Shea]

Thats my point the companies who supplied me in the past with high alkaline based harsh cleaning chemicals did not see any problems with using them, but as i said they have their reasons for that.
but i had plenty of problems using the high alkaline based cleaning chemicals, which is why i will never use them now. i am only sharing my thoughts here from my experience and agan with todays technologies there are plenty of safer cleaning solutions available from reputable janitorial suppliers in the UK instead of harsh/damaging high alkaline based cleaning chemicals. again hope that this can be of benefit.

[R.C Property]

Thats my point the companies who supplied me in the past with high alkaline based harsh cleaning chemicals did not see any problems with using them, but as i said they have their reasons for that.
but i had plenty of problems using the high alkaline based cleaning chemicals, which is why i will never use them now. i am only sharing my thoughts here from my experience and agan with todays technologies there are plenty of safer cleaning solutions available from reputable janitorial suppliers in the UK instead of harsh/damaging high alkaline based cleaning chemicals. again hope that this can be of benefit.

guess you just went to the supplier, not to the company itself that made it and its run through there test facilities,
Selden is one of the largest chemical manufacturers, testers and reseach companies in the uk, and have several around the world.

if any of these these chemicals was unsafe to use then they wouldnt sell them nor would lots of people that use them reccommend them. no-one else has had any poblems with these chemicals before.

to be fair you run a company based on eco cleaning products so you cant really be seen prasing how good these chemicals are when you sell eco products.