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billozz

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drive cleaning
« on: June 12, 2013, 06:34:47 pm »
hi guys looking to get some advice on the best equipment to buy for drive cleaning, not sure what pressure washer to get and if those spinning things really work, any advoice really appreciated
thanks
Bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

Rob_Mac

Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 07:01:48 pm »
Kylie Minogue spins around

I presume you mean a flat surface cleaner - I have heard they are okay!

The best equipment is what you can afford.

Share a little and we will!

What are you wanting?

Rob ;D

billozz

  • Posts: 526
Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 07:51:38 pm »
Rob,
thanks for the reply, well thats why i posted the question, i dont really know what i want. i have a windowcleaning round and i am thinking that a nice add on would be drive cleaning, trouble is i am not sure what to buy, what make off pressure washer? those spinning things are they better or is it justa a case of using the jet ? is that the lot regarding equipment or am i missing soemthing else that i need?i dont mind laying out a bit of money but would rather spend it once so just want some ideas , i know there are guys on here that actually do this type of work so i am hoping that they wont mind sharing some of their knowledge and experience, thanks for starting the ball rolling.
Bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

Rob_Mac

Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 07:55:52 pm »
Give an idea of what you realistically want to spend.

The FSC (Flat surface cleaner) is an integral part of the set up, so is the turbo nozzle, flat nozzle & various lances, extending lance and additional hoses.

There is a lot to carry, some don't make it so complicated and it could easily be worked on a turbo nozzle, lance, hose and machine.

Will you be keeping the set up in the van permanently or removing when not being used, will it go on a trailer?

Rob ;D

Kenny83

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Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2013, 07:57:12 pm »
Smart seal will point you in the right direction  8)
Pressure Washing -
www.powerwashcleaning.co.uk

Rob_Mac

Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2013, 08:09:33 pm »
 ;D

Rob ;D

chris scott

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Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2013, 08:17:39 pm »
Bill please feel to phone me on 07973216502 if you have questions regarding getting started at driveway cleaning.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

billozz

  • Posts: 526
Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2013, 10:10:01 pm »
Give an idea of what you realistically want to spend.

The FSC (Flat surface cleaner) is an integral part of the set up, so is the turbo nozzle, flat nozzle & various lances, extending lance and additional hoses.

There is a lot to carry, some don't make it so complicated and it could easily be worked on a turbo nozzle, lance, hose and machine.

Will you be keeping the set up in the van permanently or removing when not being used, will it go on a trailer?

Rob ;D
rob,
i honestly do not have a figure in mind...because i dont know, obviously i would rather spend as little as possible but also i do not want to buy cheap stuff that is no good for the job, the fact that you have replied leads me to think that this is something you know about so can you advise what items i need in your opinion...and also explain what some of those items are ( extending lance for instance). i have seen some pressure washers at 3000psi for about £500 and others at 4000psi for between £800 and £1500 and lots in between, to be honest to a layman like myself the only difference i could see in the specs was the psi rating but i am sure there were othere differences, just not sure what. if i can buy a few good value items that will get me started and then add to them to make the job faster or a little easier then i will go that way, this means i can use profit from jobs to help buy the extra items i need.
all the stuff will like ly be in a trailer all the time and just stay in there and sit inmy garage between jobs.
appreciate the answer
thanks Bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

billozz

  • Posts: 526
Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2013, 10:11:17 pm »
Bill please feel to phone me on 07973216502 if you have questions regarding getting started at driveway cleaning.
chris,
thanks i will do that its a little late now but i will ring you soon aprreciate he reply
Bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

Rob_Mac

Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2013, 10:13:24 pm »
I'll give you a detailed reply tomorrow mate.

I don't know as much as the "Mourinhio of Cleanitup"

Rob ;D

chris scott

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Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2013, 06:16:37 am »
I'll give you a detailed reply tomorrow mate.

I don't know as much as the "Mourinhio of Cleanitup"

Rob ;D

Rob your website states....
 "fantastic news – To add to current services, we are now the proud owners of a full farrow System, which is a low pressure, environmentally friendly, wet blasting unit.
Is that correct?
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2013, 06:45:21 am »
Most people who will view my website wont know what the system is, they will understand wet blasting but will not be able to have the breadth of understanding to compare, like for like or similar products - I believe that it is a rounded statement, that gives a brief overview of the system.

The blog was updated the other day and if it is wrong, can easily be updated and will have a bit more copy & paste being done, from the Farrow website.

What part do you have a problem with?

Rob ;D

chris scott

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Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2013, 07:10:11 am »
Most people who will view my website wont know what the system is, they will understand wet blasting but will not be able to have the breadth of understanding to compare, like for like or similar products - I believe that it is a rounded statement, that gives a brief overview of the system.

The blog was updated the other day and if it is wrong, can easily be updated and will have a bit more copy & paste being done, from the Farrow website.

What part do you have a problem with?

Rob ;D
I don't have a problem with any of it...you have purchased a wet blast system.
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
www.render-cleaning.co
https://www.cleaning-service.uk.com/bromoco-systems/
Exterior cleaning specialists covering Merseyside,Lancashire and Cheshire. TEL 08000 933267

Rob_Mac

Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2013, 08:14:52 am »
billoz

I started out with a 5.5 hp machine, the only thing it had going for it was the A & R pump and that it was Honda, I went onto the Hilta Yanmar - diesel engined machines, of which I still have three and one engine.

From there the H & M machine was bought off Roger a couple of years ago and then last year the Thor, the Thor has just gone in for a oil leak on the gear box and it turns out that the gearbox had loosened itself away from the pump, knackered the gearbox, knackered the pump and all were replaced under warranty - why did this happen, because someone at Dual Pumps had not used loctite on the four main bolts, holding them together.

It's stuff like that you just don't pick up, you learn it, we have a weekly machine check system but never thought to check that the two were held together.

I am an advocate of Hilta machines, they are always second hand on Ebay, reasonably priced 15LPM @ 3000psi, mine are 200 bar and one is 170 bar (the knackered one).

I think most of the guys on here look for 21LPM machines, it just gives you the edge to clean just about everything and we work alongside two 21LPM Rapiers.

Don't buy crap - you will buy twice!

Rob ;D

billozz

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Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2013, 03:47:38 pm »
rob,
thanks for the answer, can you explain the significance of lpm, i would have thought it was the pressure rather than the ammount of water that was important. im loking ata couple and one is about 10lpm and the other is 12lpm as you mentioned 21lpm  am i looking at the wrong type of machine? they both have honda engines one is 5.5 hp the other 9hp. im sure i will have more questions, appreciate the help.
Bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

Jettaway

  • Posts: 521
Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2013, 09:14:55 pm »
Its actually more about LPM then pressure. Yes, you can't have one without the other but LPM is important.
Imagine your knocking down a building. You have say a 30ft wide wreck in ball (the psi in this case), you've got one wrecking ball made of paper and one made of solid metal.. Which one will knock the wall down.

billozz

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Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2013, 04:12:06 pm »
sorry havent been able to get on here for a while, i am still a little confused as to what difference the ammount of water going through the jetter makes, if possible i would appreciate knowing speciffically what models of jetter people are using as i think this is one way of getting a good machine, also any advice on how to price up would be useful. i suppose if im being realistic my budget would be about £1000, can i do it for that, im hoping that i can spend a bit less than that actually but might stretch to that ammount if needed.
thanks
Bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

NortWestCC

Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2013, 04:16:23 pm »
From my understanding, you need something with a flow rate of 15-21LPM, All my knowledge is from other peoples topics, and from what I read, you want something with a reliable engine + pump, but you'll easily spend around £700+ on a machine then about £400+ on a FSC

billozz

  • Posts: 526
Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2013, 07:46:41 pm »
From my understanding, you need something with a flow rate of 15-21LPM, All my knowledge is from other peoples topics, and from what I read, you want something with a reliable engine + pump, but you'll easily spend around £700+ on a machine then about £400+ on a FSC
thanks for the answer,
how do you find a reliable engine and pump, if i purchase a jetter with a lower throughput what would the consequences be, would it take longer to clean or would it not be powerful enough to start with, i can forgo a bit of speed (i have a bit of spare time ) if it meant saviung a little money, but if lower lpm wont do the job then there is no point in buying that spec.
cheers
Bill
there are more windows than window cleaners so lets help each other

TomCrowther

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Re: drive cleaning
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2013, 09:25:39 am »
Hey Bill
Speak to a company called Techclean. They will sell you a "starter pack" type set up. A Honda pressure washer, gun and flat surface cleaner at a fair price.
Get it quick and get some marketing done.