[carpetclean]

http://www.carpet-cleaning-equipment.net/prowler_truckmount.shtml

just found this link

[AJCleaningServices]

http://www.carpet-cleaning-equipment.net/prowler_truckmount.shtml

just found this link

It was not difficult, was it, the question is would you buy from the USA?
Kind regards,
Arthur

[John Kelly]

Afraid not available from the US as we have sole selling rights for Europe.

[carpetclean]

john keely how would i get a demo of this said machine!!?

[AJCleaningServices]

Afraid not available from the US as we have sole selling rights for Europe.

Congratulations John,
Where are you going to demonstrate the machine at Carpex?
Kind regards,
Arthur

[Art]

John,

 What's the smallest van that the prowler will go into?

Arthur

[John Kelly]

We will be in the Novotel carpark at Carpex. Doubt if we'll be able to do a full demo, however peolple can have a look and try and understand it. Will hopefully have both 13hp and 15hp there. The 15hp is not ready for sale yet as it has been built to our spec and is still undergoing trials. We have tested the 13hp for nearly 2 years and are now confident to sell them.

Authur

Like all van mounted systems it is not the physical dimensions of the machine that are the limiting factor. What you have to allow for is the additional capacity, both weight and size, required to carry fresh water and enough hose to carry out your work. Water weighs 1 kilo per litre and I believe you need a minimum of 200 litres onboard, preferably 350-400.
Coupled to this your hoses/reel. You do obtain some space saving with the Prowler as you don't need a waste tank.
I would rule out small vans such as Escorts, Couriers etc. However you can get away with using a midi size like the Expert, provided it has the carrying capacity. ps you can always work off a hose pipe.
Personally I believe vans are like sheds, never big enough and you always wish you'd bought a bigger one.

[cleaning co]

look really good bit kit nice size, but its just the price , such lot money , really whats the diffrnce between on of these and a engine driven pressure washer with a burner ?  all i can think of is a blower, they both hav engines they both hav high pressure pumps they both heat the water  yet u can get the washer for coulpe grand !!   just a thought,  and i think all truckmounts and portys are way over the top on price, i paid the same for a brand new van  for what one of these prowlers are !!!

[stevegunn]

Cleaning Co two ways of looking at this pay for a t/m or porty and it can make you 50k a year /buy a van and it loses you money

[John Kelly]

Unfortunately the market place dictates the cost. The pressure washer market is huge. I use a moisture meter which cost me £600. I bet it cost £10 to make in China.
Using the same anology You could say a portable is a plastic box with 2 100 quid vac motors, 1 100 quid pump and 10 metres of wire.

[cleaning co]

yes i c what u saying john  it was like i said just a thought, steve beg to differ mate but how would we earn this money without a van    think i might be a bit knackerd by the time ive wheeled my porty 5 miles and then gone back to get hoses and wand 

[stevegunn]

You know what I mean your van depreciates in value

[PaulKing]

I know for a fact that the prowler test machine has done £250k of work in the last 2 years,  the van it is in cost 18k.

Honestly cannot see us doing those sort of figures with a 6K van and a 2K porty.

[AJCleaningServices]

I know for a fact that the prowler test machine has done £250k of work in the last 2 years, the van it is in cost 18k...

Paul where did you get those numbers?
Kind regards,
Arthur

[AJCleaningServices]

If somebody using Prowler managed to make £250,000 in two years time it is only because of successful marketing of their carpet cleaning business.  At the end of the day Prowler does not convert dirt in to pounds, get real!

However Prowler does have some nice features. 

For me a carpet cleaner to be Prowler looks as a nice machine, but I am not sure that I could/should invest so much money at the moment in to a new carpet cleaning business.

Kind regards,
Arthur

[PaulKing]

Arthur, we're a limited company so you can find the figures on Companies House website.

my point about doing £250k work in two years was, firstly, that the prowler and all other truckmounts clean so much better than a portable that we get a lot of repeat customers and don't need to spend time chasing new ones and secondly that it cleans so much faster than a portable that we can do more work. also because we use a truckmount system customers are happy to pay a bit extra.

"At the end of the day Prowler does not convert dirt in to pounds, get real!" Yes,but someone also once said "Where there's muck there's brass"!

[AJCleaningServices]

Paul,

If I understand correctly you said that only Prowler (without other carpet cleaning machines you may have) made you 250,000. 

If your machine was working 5 days a week 52 weeks a year for two years to make 250,000 your would have been making £480.77 per every working day.  Is it possible?

Kind regards,
Arthur

[PaulKing]

In a word YES and I am sure there are others here that will confirm that, and most probably they are using trukmounts too. Only used my portable twice the whole time.

If there one thing I have learnt is "Don't buy trouble"

For instance If customer books you then on arrival says "it's a unqiue £5k carpet from the Emperor Mings own weaver and last time it was cleaned by "bodge it and scarper" for £35 it took 3 days to dry and went all wavey and now the colours don't look the same, and although you charge £95 they want you to do it.
RUN RUN and keep RUNNING You definately loose a £95 Job but probably save £ much hassle.


As for working 5 days Some weeks 6 or 7 and some long hours too. Remember 409.16+vat = £480.77.


Right off to have my prowler gold plated at Ratners!

[Mike Halliday]

Paul I'm finding these figure interesting as well.


one prowler has been earning £400 every day for 2 years or does some of your company income come from other sources.

Mike

[AJCleaningServices]

Paul, I would not like this to develop into personal confrontation. 

To my understanding a turnover of £50,000 per year seems to be a good achievement for most carpet cleaners.

I would not like to count money in your pocket, but the fact that you managed to turnover £250,000 over two years using only one carpet cleaning machine seem to me just too good to be true.  However if you say that you have done it I would not argue. 

Let me just say that if you managed to turnover £100,000+ per year I would think that it has only happened because of your good business skills.

Prowler is a very interesting machine.  It is a real portable trackmount and may be capable to save you some time (you have very little waist to get rid of etc.), but I doubt that it has got the abilities to considerably increase your productivity if you compare it with another carpet cleaning machine with similar characteristics.

Kind regards,
Arthur