[AJCleaningServices]

I am not sure at this moment what kind of carpet cleaning machine I am after and how much money (to be honest I do not have many ) I would like to invest in to this business, but would like to ask you opinion on this machine:

I assume that to carry this machine you would not need a large van, so there is a saving here, what do you think?

Kind regards,
Arthur

[Chris R]

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8090.0

Also do a search on the "other" forums 

Lots of info,

Cheers
Chris

[Spot On cleaning]

Arthur,

If i was going to spend £6000 on this thing, i would rather buy a normal van mounted machine which you can get for around this price, or a good second hand truck mount. With a van mount, you get a water tank built in for self sufficient cleaning and a big waste tank.

It could be argued that this portable machine pumps directly out into the street drain and could be connected to a water supply. Firstly i thought it was illegal to dump waste water into a normal drain. I believe that all water must be disposed of in a toilet drain only or a soakway. Secondly what if theres no water supply.

The engine is a 14hp which in my opinion is not powerful enough. Health and safety would be interested in a machine left on the pavemant where people could be injured. You would still need a big van for all the hoses you would need.

As Len said in an earlier post; it will leave all truck mount users shaking in their boots.

No mate i don't think so my portable using friend  perhaps though as the price is half what a normal truck mount is, you might now be able to afford one

Dave

[BRSL]

I can see why this might be apeeling to some as the price is quite low but I dont believe it is going to be any better than a top line porty.

But it's like Dave has suggested that for the extra cash and getting a van mounted machine you are also getting fuel tank, water and waste tank, hoses and reel professionaly fitted the list goes on

in its favour though it has got a 2000psi pump which is quite impressive for a machine of that size but will the 13hp engine cope, Hydramasters 3.2 spitfire runs at 3300 rpm I think but thats not flat out as to protect the engine, I think this little machine will be running flat out to run

And again duping water straight onto the pavement is not a good thing

James

[Spot On cleaning]

Jay

If you change the pulley on the cat pump to a smaller one, it will turn faster, thus giving a higher psi. If you look at the cat pump manual that came with your new machine, then it tells you that is has a range, which is controlled b its pulley diameter.

Hope this is useful to you. High pressure jetting at heat??

Dave

[BRSL]

mine has the abbility to run at 1000psi it might go higher with a new pulley but if it could why is it not set up too, as it is great selling point, I think again they down power alot of things to give better life expextency and efficency, which again gives me concern over the prowler, how long are the seals going to last

James

[Spot On cleaning]

Jay

They power them down to avoid the lower model from clashing with the next higher model in the series, otherwise everybody would go for the base model, and they wouldn't have a range. These pumps have a range stipulated by the manufacturer and will do it.

Obviously the bigger machines come in at 46 hp, but hey are driving a bigger blower and more vacumn hoses plus dual operation. When i bought my entry level Blazer plus, the book says 250 feet of vac hose, but when i asked them in person, i was told it can support 300 with a slight drop in pressure. Look in the catalogue and you will find the next model which can run 300 feet of vac hose, only its £1000 more.

The Blazer is rated at 93 degrees centigrade, so i would think that with a bit of tweeking, i could increase this to the spec of the next one or even two models, and up the pressure by changing the pulley. I would not be surprised either if the blower could be uprated.

Dave

[Mike Halliday]

AJ, you need to talk to someone who is familiar with this machine, instead of reading uninformed opinions as have been posted so far.

no insult intended but Dave & James obviously know nothing about this machine than what it says on the picture.

you need to talk to some one who has actually cleaned carpets with it.

Mike

[AJCleaningServices]

I would like to thank you for all your replies

AJ, you need to talk to someone who is familiar with this machine...
...you need to talk to some one who has actually cleaned carpets with it.
Mike

Mike,

That is why I have posted this topic.  But no one, who has actually cleaned carpets with it, responded yet.  I am not sure if any member of this forum has experience using this machine. 

Kind regards,
Arthur

[Mike Halliday]

Lee gundry and I think Steve gunn have used this machine might be worth searching thier names.

Mike

[AJCleaningServices]

Lee gundry and I think Steve gunn have used this machine might be worth searching thier names.

Mike

Thanks Mike

[Spot On cleaning]

Arthur,

Mike is right, you need to speak to somebody who has used one. However myself and James's opinion might be uninformed, but we have looked at the product and am simply saying the downside of the product as we see it

I am sure you would not like to purchase this machine, only to find you are stuck with something that does not perform as you expected it to, and you have wasted money in doing so.

With a conventional truckmount, at least you know its proven technology. This equipment puts me in mind of one of the street petrol driven vacumn machines that the local councils sometimes use.

Dave

[AJCleaningServices]

Dave,
Every opinion is very much appreciated,

James, thank you to you too,

Kind regards,
Arthur

[John Kelly]

First of all don't comment on something you have never seen or understand. The Prowler is an innovative machine and works in a different way than a standard truckmount. It is designed to be left in the vehicle, however the beauty of it is that it is easily removed for maintenance etc. Unlike some, we have one company interested who are running other machines at the minute who are being charged £1000 to remove and re-fit their truckmount from a vehicle.
Have a look at it, understand how its designed to work then give your opinion, good or bad.

[BRSL]

John hello isnt that what we done  : : :

Like Mike said were comenting on what the add says thats all

James

[Spot On cleaning]

John Kelly

People always form opinions the first time, and it is human nature. we see a product on the television such as a car and we either like it or we do not. We have been presented with a set of specifications and have made a simple decision about whether or not we would want to use one.

Regarding the fitting and re-fitting of a conventional truckmount to a vehicle, i would say that i would not pay this, instead doing it myself would be the option i would choose.

The only point that i am saying is the fact that conventional trck mounts are tried and tested technology that has come across the channel.

You seem to have taken offence with some peoples comments, and i was wondering whether or not you are marketing this product. If you are, then good luck with the machine.

Dave

[John Kelly]

Dave

I thought you would be aware that we are the distributors of the Prowler.  Whenever I offer advice it is based on first hand knowledge (either from a demonstration or actually using a piece of equipment) or from research into the subject.

A few brief pointers on how this machine actually works.
The Prowler does not have a waste tank which needs to be pre-vacuumed as it sucks the waste water directly through the modified blower (still fully warranted by manufacturer). Due to the high temperature the blower is running at most of that waste water is turned to vapour. The small amount of liquid which does exit via the waste hose can be directed to a suitable drain onto ground or into a container/waste tank.

It can feed from a van mounted tank or directly from a hosepipe as other truckmounts. The machine produces 27 inches of Mercury lift and 220 cubic feet per minute of airflow.
Stainless steel heat exchanger produces 90 degrees heat. It also has 2 stainless steel silencers.

And replacement parts are also a fraction of the cost of a coventional truckmount.

We have just recieved delivery of 2 new machines including an even more powerfull 15hp with clutch and exhaust diverter. (pic)

I welcome all comments...even the ones that get me slightly miffed.    Anyone who wants a demo let me know...provided of course I can get it back off Newcastle City Council 

[Len Gribble]

Dave

Don’t think I said that? May have said watch out TM’er, but please correct me if I’m wrong?

Tried and tested from across the channel? What has Europe given in this field?

John

Prefer the new colour (red reminds me of ken Livingstone )

 Len

[HQCS (John Kastrian)]

This machine is certainly an innovative design,and I would not rule it out from my options to upgrade in the future.
Most of the derogatory comments have no founding whatsoever,where in the advert does it state you have to pump dirty water onto a pavement?,no cc would even consider doing this,and it in no way resembles a road sweeper.
Yes,the machine is different,but not that different.
I have read the advertisement and have no doubt that this unit would perform any differently to a full size unit,and maintenance would be a lot easier as you could access it easily.
Well worth considering I think.
John

[AJCleaningServices]

...Prefer the new colour...

So do I,

Red reminds me about the football team across the river Tyne