[David Kent @ KentKleen]

DG you are digging yourself a very big hole! IMO Stop while you have the chance.

[G Griffin]

cocaine is the biggest selling product in the the usa

Are you sure?
Coke/Coca Cola, maybe.

[DG Cleaning]

DG you are digging yourself a very big hole! IMO Stop while you have the chance.

Thanks Kentkleen your probably and although I stand by my views its an argument that goes nowhere.

Goodnight all

[roundbuilder]

The way some fools are talking on here, maybe you should go join a drug dealing forum.
How can you compare alcohol with illegal drugs?? Tesco dont sell illegal drugs but they do sell legal booze.

Drug dealers/pushers= scum.
Tesco/off licence= mans best friend after a hard days work.

[windiewasher]

Hopefully richy will read some of the comments here when he comes out.like gav said he will anything for anyone.he was telling someone only the otherday dont waste money on a pressure washer that they could borrow his anytime.
 we all make mistakes in life.
Im sure he knows he done wrong and like somebody mentioned his family will miss him.his kids wont see there dad.

[G Griffin]

Drugs and alcohol are not the causes of the problems. People have problems, so turn to drink or drugs or both, which can worsen their problems.
People can have a drink without becoming addicted and people can take cocaine without becoming addicted.
It's the problem people have that is the real issue.

[rosskesava]

Pity Richy didn't think about his kids beforehand.

I've absolutely no sympathy at all. I hope he rots.

I wonder how Richy would feel about his own kids getting dragged into the world of drugs when they're in their teens. By dealing himself, I'm sure he would be happy for that to happen.

To say we've all made mistakes in life reduces what Richy was doing to something accidental. There's nothing accidental about dealing cocaine. The bottom line is easy money and no conscience or principals. I've made 'mistakes' in life but it didn't include dealing cocaine.

There's a mind numbingly simple reason why drugs are illegal. To say that just because people have problems they turns to drugs and alcohol and it's better to deal with that problem tries to negate the fact that if the drugs weren't available, a lot of people wouldn't be in the hell that is drug addiction.

[supernova77]

It does explain a lot about his odd posts on here...

He always seemed to have an endless supply of money to buy vans, new equipment etc... but was never out working himself and always complained that his staff were rubbish and not bringing enough money in.

I doubt we'll ever see him on here again...

Andy

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Sal, my partner, lost her eldest daughter to the consequences of drug addiction about 3 months ago now. Anna was in her 30s and had been a long term intravenous street drug user.

Anna was without doubt one of life's victims. She had terrible things done to her and I have no intention of divulging any of it on here. But Anna chose her lifestyle. The last conversation I had with her 2 months prior to her dying, revolved around the fact she would die if she continued with her lifestyle. She told me she enjoyed her the way her life was, whatever the hell was left of it. You can't fight that determination.

I don't blame the dealers. What will that achieve? Getting angry. It's pointless. They are who they are and that's that. They will continue to deal whatever, regardless.

[G Griffin]

There's a mind numbingly simple reason why drugs are illegal. To say that just because people have problems they turns to drugs and alcohol and it's better to deal with that problem tries to negate the fact that if the drugs weren't available, a lot of people wouldn't be in the hell that is drug addiction.

Maybe not, but don't tell me they would be cured. They would drink or use prescription drugs.
Drugs and dealers don't create addicts. They certainly don't help but there are other causes. I can easily get hold of drugs but I'm lucky that I don't have to.

Added later- good post, Matt. And dignified.

[rosskesava]

It does explain a lot about his odd posts on here...

He always seemed to have an endless supply of money to buy vans, new equipment etc... but was never out working himself and always complained that his staff were rubbish and not bringing enough money in.

I doubt we'll ever see him on here again...

Andy

Andy, I have to admit that now you mention it, I did sort of wonder that someone seemingly so inept was running a business that seemed to have plenty of cash available and in profit.

As for drug dealing being absolutely fine and the responsibility is all down to the addict who took that first step, wakey wakey.

To those who support that view and who have kids, when your kids are about 13 or 14 years old start trying yourself to persuade your own children to try drinks and drugs. I bet you don't do that and there's an obvious reason why.

By not blaming drug dealers is akin to saying they're innocent of all wrong doing. They're just supplying a demand created by..... drug dealers and it's not a question of being angry, it's a question of who is responsible for selling drugs in the first place. If the seller doesn't sell, the buyer doesn't buy.

[dave0123]

I didnt realize business was making any money cus it never did add up, 3 staff window cleaners i think? two people in office answering phones.. him doing nowt everyday than doing quotes   3 vans but all trading under vat? and his unit that he said was about 700 a month or something

[G Griffin]

It does explain a lot about his odd posts on here...

He always seemed to have an endless supply of money to buy vans, new equipment etc... but was never out working himself and always complained that his staff were rubbish and not bringing enough money in.

I doubt we'll ever see him on here again...

Andy

Andy, I have to admit that now you mention it, I did sort of wonder that someone seemingly so inept was running a business that seemed to have plenty of cash available and in profit.

As for drug dealing being absolutely fine and the responsibility is all down to the addict who took that first step, wakey wakey.

To those who support that view and who have kids, when your kids are about 13 or 14 years old start trying yourself to persuade your own children to try drinks and drugs. I bet you don't do that and there's an obvious reason.

I didn't say that. And where did I say it's "absolutely fine"?
Dealers come and go but we'll always have addicts. All I'm saying is, that if people didn't want or need to take drugs, we wouldn't have dealers. And it's not about who's to blame.
Matt used the words "life's victims" and I think he's right. Addicts are a victim of something- an illness, if you like- and dealers cash in on this. That's not "absolutely fine" and it would be better to stop these poor barsties becoming victims than it would stopping some greedy scumbags becoming dealers.

[rosskesava]

Maybe I used the wrong words, and for that I apologise, but to portray drug dealers as only being there due to those wanting to buy drugs sends out a wrong type of principal.

It sends out a message that those who get hooked on drugs are responsible for those that sell the drugs selling them in the first place.

Drug dealing is illegal where as drug taking isn't. It's that way round for a reason.

Once a person is addicted they will always find a dealer. It's about the person not starting to take drugs in the first place. With no dealers, there's no addiction that ends up with the addict having to find a dealer.

We've reached a sad state now in our society that drug dealers have almost become an accepted part of life to the extent where society has to try and persuade kids never to start taking drugs as the answer to the drug dealing problem and people like Richy Wilts have just made a 'mistake'.

Sorry, I don't go along that view.

[8weekly]

I find it hard to believe people are conflicting about cocaine. Bottom line is that any1 who deals drugs is a loser scumbag taking immoral earnings from damaging others.

I assume you refuse to clean pubs or tobaconists then.

[bobplum]

So is this all true or just a big wind up

Whats going to happen to his work then? family taking it over? if it comes out in paper news will spread customers will drop him.

no it is true
has far as i know its been left in the hands of others, father / father -in-law and employees, i believe
as in previous post,help was offered by myself,gav,ian but no arrangement , nothing could be worked out

[andyM]

 ..........................what a silly boy.

[Dean Taberner]

Drug dealing can be very distressing at times!

[Moderator David@stives]

Ah bob I get the digs now, got ya

[andyM]

Im surprised someone didn't make him an offer for his round?
In his situation a small token might of been enough to seal the deal.
How's about I start the bidding with...............a soap on a rope.