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Lavinia

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flood work
« on: May 24, 2013, 01:56:48 pm »
does anyone do flood restoration work alongside there carpet cleaning and if so is their enough work out there and is it still a reasonable amount of money to be made. As a carpet cleaner for nearly 10 years i seem to have more time on my hands than iv'e ever had and am looking at a means of making a living that isn't dependent on the state of the economy. Any advice would be very much appreciated. 

peter maybury

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Re: flood work
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 07:01:25 pm »
there is no short answer to this question. I do flood work but there is not so much of it about and like any other industry there is established competition. I do not know how well equipped you are but as most flood situatiions compromise the electrics in a building, a truckmount is a requirement. Once you have that then the next thing you need is do do some training in order to find out the other equipment that you need.
My best income stream from flood work is from equipment hire, I own 20 + turbo dryers as well as whole room dryers compact dryers and dehumidifiers.I have not had a situation where all of my equipment is in use for some time. Initially you can hire in this equipment but obviously your margins will decrease. Equipment such as moisture meters etc you will have trouble hiring so need to be bought. Other considerations are storage of the quipment and transporting it etc. As said earlier a good training course is the best place to start as there are proceedure that need to be followed it is a lot more involved than just turning up and sucking water from carpets.
Peter

JandS

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Re: flood work
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 07:30:24 pm »
Pete

If the water threatens the electrics I was led
to believe the Fire Service would come and pump
out for free.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Nick Attwood

  • Posts: 301
Re: flood work
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 07:33:25 pm »
All I’ll say is I still do it! But am seriously considering coming out of it, as its not what it used to be!! Things will change given time I see the Insurance sector as one big circle! IMO they have gone back to what the did 20 years ago “try to cash settle more” that burnt there fingers then and will do again!! Which is when the circle will begin again.. and they’ll go back to restorers.

Lavinia

  • Posts: 83
Re: flood work
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 07:41:44 pm »
 I do have a truckmount and some dehumidifiers and air-movers so equipment isnt an issue. I did some fire and flood work with a Chemdry Franchise and even went on their in house course but that was over 10 years ago now. I will be looking into the flood school over the next week or so to bring me up to date. I was just really trying no find how much work their is for a non franchised one man band, and if its still a profitable way to take my company forward.

peter maybury

  • Posts: 916
Re: flood work
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 07:46:16 pm »
J and s
pumping out water from basements etc is one thing flood restoration is a totally different thing. It is a little more involved than pumping out water. The fire service will not extract water from carpets, remove underlay, gripper, skirtings etc etc

Peter

John Kelly

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Re: flood work
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 07:57:20 pm »
The industry is in the doldrums at the moment. The insurance companies are cash settling most of their claims to save money. They are basically banks who use your premium to invest so have suffered due to the global financial crisis. Some of them are using validation companies who are seriously under scoping the damage to peoples homes so they can please their master and offer a low settlement.
However moves are a foot which may bring this practice to an end.
There is a parliamentry group looking into this. They have been stoked up by certain building companies who are being used as patsies. They are scoping jobs but the insurers are then offering a lower cash settlement on the strength of their quote. Basically they have spent hours of work for no return. Because the policyholders aren't recieving the full amount to cover the damage they find it difficult to find a professional builder to do the work so a lot of them are having the work done cash in hand. The amount of cash settlements taking place is estimated at £26,000,000 per day. The members of parliament are concerned that because a large chunk of this cash is going onto the black market the government are losing out on VAT and PAYE reciepts. Also there is a certain individual who has married up with solicitors to find houses which have mould problems because the insurer has not instructed a drying company to dry out. Should a court case be succesfull then it will open the flood gates, pardon the pun.
Anyway hopefully things will change soon. I did over 40k worth of work last year but have retired to concentrate on our supply business so there is still a fair bit of work out there.
To be in with any sort of a chance to pick work up you need training to make sure you know what you are doing. This isn't like carpet cleaning where you may have to fork out for a new carpet if it goes wrong. I know companies who have had to fork out over 80k to put right jobs which weren't dried properly. The BDMA would be my first port of call as a lot of insurers and loss adjusters insist on you being a BDMA qualified technician. See here: http://www.bdma.org.uk/

Once trained you can apply to join various networks who dish this sort of work out. I would also contact local loss adjusters, brokers etc, taking them to lunch goes down well.

Peter I would disagree about needing a truckmount as most people in the industry don't, however having one is a great asset.

John Kelly

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Re: flood work
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 07:58:30 pm »
By the way pumping out water is about 5% of the work involved.

Nick Attwood

  • Posts: 301
Re: flood work
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 09:59:02 pm »
Agree completely with what John wrote, can’t agree more. Have used my truckmount on less the 1/4 of the claims I have dealt with.

peter maybury

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Re: flood work
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2013, 11:37:17 am »
I too have done flood work with portable eqwuipment and I remember how dificult it was to do. Having to get hold of genaratoors, stopping to empty every few minutes. One of the main reason I went to a truckmount is seeing how efficient my competitors were and how much longer it took me to do a job. Years ago in flash floods a truckmount had completed 3  shops whilst I was still on my first one. It made me look pretty inferior  to all that were there. Oviously on just a small isolated job the difference would no be so great but that one experience taught me a lesson.
Peter

jasonl

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Re: flood work
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 04:08:18 pm »
I do a decent amount every month , but like others have said, not nearly what I used to do, for this reason , Im out , retraining for a new career.
I clean carpets
I dry Buildings