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john martin

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2013, 12:39:12 am »
Is the burner too small Russ ? 
would be good to have a storage tank plumbed to the van cooling system like bane .. and then the heater perhaps ... or just a big diesel heater ?
might get away with an electrical inline in some places .

Steve Gunn

  • Posts: 850
Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2013, 07:00:50 am »
Russ this type of heating system works well for window cleaners all be it at 100psi the guy said the machine doesn't dump hot water like t/ms and they had the demo one set to 60 degrees but I don't think they fired the heater up

Mike Halliday

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #42 on: April 29, 2013, 07:10:57 am »
It was a caravan water heater, I posted 6months ago a video of one I tried. It needs a bypass system of returning preheated water into a water box so when you let go  of the wand trigger it keeps fired up and returns the water into a holding tank.

If you could feed the heater with warm water you could achieve higher temps. 60degrees is not hot enough, it will cool to much by the time it gets to the wand.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Simon Gerrard

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2013, 07:48:31 am »
Anyone thinking of buying the ETM would seriously need to think about how practical it would be given the variety of locations it is likely to be used in, purely from the perspective of feeding it power. A first or second floor apartment where you can only take the power from the apartment which could be 100 feet from the entrance? EOT's with no power in them. Places where you cannot park near to the building. At least with a comparable portable you can take the machine to the job.
Nice looking piece of kit though.

Simon

Russ Chadd

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2013, 08:30:52 am »
Anyone thinking of buying the ETM would seriously need to think about how practical it would be given the variety of locations it is likely to be used in, purely from the perspective of feeding it power. A first or second floor apartment where you can only take the power from the apartment which could be 100 feet from the entrance? EOT's with no power in them. Places where you cannot park near to the building. At least with a comparable portable you can take the machine to the job.
Nice looking piece of kit though.

Simon

You have a good point Simon and this is one of the reasons i opted for a porty which can be van mounted or (most of the time) removed and taken to the location.
There is no doubt at all that this machine is powerful, the heating system to me looks totally inefficient and pointless, the easiest way to heat the water without having to run another cable to the van would be to use a little giant LPG in line heater  which should produce post-pump hot steaming water.

I know this isnt the thread to do a full review about the machine, but if i am honest i thought it looked a little cheap and flimsy for all that cash,   the recovery tank was also tiny so you are totally relying on the auto dump and auto de foam to work... the cost to replace 4 vacs would break your heart!

ETM's still need to be developed to compete with regular TM's... but they are getting there...

Simon Gerrard

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2013, 09:07:29 am »
There is also an issue of dumping waste water in the street for which you can get a massive fine.
Another potential issue is running two power cords into the street - indeed running two power cords to any machine is illegally, or so I was told on Saturday.

Simon

jim mca

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2013, 04:54:52 pm »
So were do tm owners dump there waste water and do you need a licence to carry it

Andy Hogarth

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2013, 05:50:37 pm »
I learned loads the other day, not only did I get some quality 1 on 1 rug cleaning with both Dave and Paul I watched Paul transform some battered old leather pieces within hours. Never been interested in Leather restoration but now I am.

I got some tips regarding improving turnover from Dave L which I have started to put into place today so straight away earning from the day.

To me though it's just more about seeing old and new faces and swapping tips/stories between us all.

Fantastic day but walking for hours to find a night club or open pub gone midnight just to return to the hotel room and drink decaffinated coffee and ovaltine needs addressing!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Www.2venturegroup.com

bennymon

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2013, 06:26:26 pm »
Correct Andy you just couldn't get a late drink  :'( del

derek west

Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2013, 06:51:41 pm »
I learned loads the other day, not only did I get some quality 1 on 1 rug cleaning with both Dave and Paul I watched Paul transform some battered old leather pieces within hours. Never been interested in Leather restoration but now I am.

I got some tips regarding improving turnover from Dave L which I have started to put into place today so straight away earning from the day.

To me though it's just more about seeing old and new faces and swapping tips/stories between us all.

Fantastic day but walking for hours to find a night club or open pub gone midnight just to return to the hotel room and drink decaffinated coffee and ovaltine needs addressing!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

"pizza for will lane!!!, PIZZA FOR WILL LANE!!!" pmsl

i didn't really have time to watch the trainers but me and the wife had some good chats with attendee's, shaun ashmore and max/ollie campbell gave us some nice food for thought which we have adapted and been implementing today.

the thing is, its not that you don't think of the idea its just hearing it from someone who does it and is successful is motivation to try it yourself. if you see what i mean, hard to explain.


jim mca

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2013, 07:05:12 pm »
Never to go looking for a pub with Andy  ;D or deliver him a pizza

Richard Basey-Fisher

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2013, 07:15:34 pm »
We went to the relish tandori glad i put the bog roll in the fridge before i went to bed

Paul Moss

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2013, 09:00:44 pm »
This style/type of day was started by Dave L and me for one reason only, the posts above say it all but basicaly the one thing every body should take away from a day like this is CONFIDENCE TO HAVE A GO.
To many guys go on courses and are still  s hit scarred to have ago incase they cock   something up. By watching guys doing it live in a easy to do style giving tips and tricks is the way that gives them the confidence and a bit of fire in their belly to try it and progress their business.  ;). Glad you all had a great weekend, i did. :)

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2013, 09:35:38 pm »
Spot on, fortune favours the brave!

Think it was Billy who had fir in is belly and Ash up his behind.

Shaun

Richard Basey-Fisher

  • Posts: 260
Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2013, 09:53:51 pm »
Spot on, fortune favours the brave!

Think it was Billy who had fir in is belly and Ash up his behind.

Shaun

Shaun think bert and ernie mis understood the term hands on weekend

Paul Moss

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2013, 10:02:23 pm »
Typo ,  fire  ;D

Tony Gill Carpet Smart

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2013, 08:59:27 am »
I learnt that a Journey can take three hour longer when they shut the motorway for a few junctions :-)
and Fogging could be a good earner

Cheers Tony
STAY YOUNG HAVE FUN BE HAPPY xx
www.carpetcleanersbridlington.co.uk

Allan Simmons

  • Posts: 327
Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2013, 09:09:59 am »
Spot on, fortune favours the brave!

Think it was Billy who had fir in is belly and Ash up his behind.

Shaun

Shaun think bert and ernie mis understood the term hands on weekend

 ;D

derek west

Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2013, 02:04:19 pm »
i put 2 things into practice what i learned at the weekend

1) i saw a rug with a mark on it and left it as i wasn't supposed to clean it.  thank you andy  ;D

2) for regulars i normally charge £1 a minute, was called in to clean a regulars letting property, proper minger, small 2 bed empty. took me 1 hour and 20 mins start to finish, cracking job, charged £140. i know i'm not there yet but that was brave for me, thank you shaun ashmore.

stuart_clark

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Re: So what did you learn .....
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2013, 02:51:50 pm »
Derek

how do I become a member of tacca ? I filled in the online form some time ago,