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Ian_Giles

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Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2006, 09:20:15 pm »
Actually you can spray water about till it is coming out of your ears, you are not wasting it in the sense that once used it is gone forever.
It just goes back into the system, and by that of course I mean 'natures' system, not the man made one.
I'm not sure how much water us WFP'ers use in total per day, but the combined leaks that the water companies lose amounts to 3,609megalitres of water per day, that enough to fill 1,443 Olympic size swimming pools, or would supply 11 MILLION homes :o
That is every day guys.
Now that is wastage for you.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

mark f

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Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2006, 09:34:57 pm »
true Ian that is where the "main" (excuse the joke!) problem lies! But at the start of the year when wfp really took off i had to laugh at the advetising all the wfpers were using with regard to being more enviromentally friendly! A squirt of sensibly chosen soap is far more friendly than all that water. If climate change continues then the public in the same way as they are starting to turn thier noses up at thirsty cars certainly wont appreciate water wasting industry. After all water is so precious, and could become very expensive if the water companies dont get a grip.

Ian_Giles

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Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2006, 10:19:15 pm »
Mmm, climate change is a moot point, the greenland ice shelf is melting at getting smaller at an  unprecedented rate...but they don't tell you that the ice shelf on Iceland is getting bigger :-\

But we get more than enough water fall out of the skys...we just don't harvest the bloody stuff properly :'(
Building tens of thousands of new homes in the worst affected area in the country might give our lords and masters a little incentive to start doing something about it :o

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

neil100

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Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2006, 09:49:22 am »
Water Water everywhere.

Our blessed Green Isle in which we live is an Island surrounded by water.

There is more water on this planet then then their is Land Mass.

This country as a water shortage. Why or Why are the water companys not building Desalination plants on the cost. There is not one Desalination plant in the entire country, Even Malta as one, The Cannery Islands have them. But us thick Brits choose not to build them.

The Water boards will force water meters on the public, They will reduce the amount of workers fixing leaks to start installing water meters. Then when the country is on water meters they will start to hike the price up to try to reduce consummer consumption to control supply. They will get increased profits while controlling water  supply without the need to build new Reservoirs or Desalination plants.

So in terms of water useage this country will feel like a third world country while the historic green lawned gardens filled with colourfull plants will be replaced with concrecte patios and loads of plant pots which will make moveing are wfp hoses even more difficult.

Nel.

squeaky-clean 1

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Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2006, 11:55:12 am »
hi guys

i know we should all be on water meters but i rent my house so cant change the use of property to comercial, so cant have business rates meter.

i have spoken to my water company today who do not have water ban in place but they said i could happen in the summer if the weather stays dry.

they said that if the water was cut off and we had stand pipes it would be at the end of the road,  this means whether you have domestic water meter or commercial water meter you would still loose your water supply.

so how do i stand should i just have domestic meter fitted so that i am at least paying for any water that i do use ,
or should i now try to find premises to rent have business water meter fitted and how as a small domestic business are we going to survive.

we could not go back to just ladders as some of the houses we do can not be cleaned safely trad and windows would be missed (one reason that we got the work in the first place).

i want to do the wright thing i just dont know which way to go .

is it leagle to use domestic supply by meter for wfp.

Belinda
Belinda
the real boss.

DASERVICES

Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2006, 02:53:09 pm »

  This is something I would have thought the B.W.C.A would have looked into
  for their members. If industrial companies and farmers had their water cut off
  I'm sure they would be seaking compensation and would get it.

  The same should apply to us guys no water, no work, no income therefore
   we should be compensated.

   Something maybe the B.W.C.A or the new A.P.W.C should look into, that's
   what they are there for !

    Doug

John Conroy

Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2006, 03:07:14 pm »
B.W.C.A does not have members, is a commercial company for ionic, there not our trade body.

John Conroy

Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2006, 03:09:57 pm »
and looking on this tread it seems APWC is looking into this, well they say so.

With regard to the proposed restrictions on wtaer use, and in particular the mention of building and window cleaning.

The Association of Professional Window Cleaners have already openned dialogue with the Chief Executive of the Agency to try and ensure that this does not affect then industry.

A press release has been issued through teh PA to alert the media to the contradictions of the situatoin.

Watch this space?

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2006, 03:18:04 pm »

 This is something I would have thought the B.W.C.A would have looked into
 for their members. If industrial companies and farmers had their water cut off
 I'm sure they would be seaking compensation and would get it.

 The same should apply to us guys no water, no work, no income therefore
 we should be compensated.

 Something maybe the B.W.C.A or the new A.P.W.C should look into, that's
 what they are there for !

 Doug

This is something the APWC are looking into,if you look back a few posts you would see this.

We are currently in talks with the Environment Agency and have released a press release via the press agency hilighting the contradictions between the WAHD and a possible water ban.

The APWC will face all issues relating to window cleaning head on.

Thanks

Dave

John Conroy

Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2006, 03:32:09 pm »
A industry going back to ladders wouldn’t the HSE have something to say with regards to there plans of reduction in deaths in working at height? am sure they would be on the side of any trade association so that the safer way of cleaning can still be used.       

martyn

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Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2006, 07:07:43 pm »
John Conroy said , and looking on this tread it seems APWC is looking into this, well they say so.


John,

Not only do we say so, but the Agency have replied,
"
Dear Cllr Bolt,
 I can confirm that we are dealing with your request and original note.  We have asked the appropriate department for a draft response to forward to our Chief Executive.
 This is being dealt with through our correspondence system and is still within our deadline for response under our Customer Charter.

We will respond as soon as possible.

Thank you.
Chris
""

The Agency charter says they will respond within 10 working days, so we await their considerred view.

As soon as we know we will let the industry know.

Martyn


Londoner

Re: Hosepipe bans on the way in the South East
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2006, 08:39:08 am »
The hosepipe ban is one thing, water meters are another. They said on the radio a couple of times yesterday that the government are going to use the water shortage as an excuse to put in water meters.
Potentially that is a big problem as well.