[Bay View WCS]

Given a couple of high profile news articles such as:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312884/Window-cleaner-pictured-balancing-100ft-Manhattan-streets-works-WITHOUT-safety-harness.html

and:

http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/Window-cleaner-injured-18ft-fall/story-18801888-detail/story.html#axzz2RY9ZZRkq

I wonder if we will get to a stage where commercial clients will be forced to refuse traditional window cleaning with the inherent risks.  Surely they have a duty of care to the contractors they employ?

Discuss 

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

61 and he falls 18'. Good God. Makes you wonder doesn't it.

Falling 18' at any age is gonna hurt.

[SunShineCleaning]

"His wife is a teacher at the school"

Once again the school goes with the easy option rather than the best option.

Smashed pelvis is no fun but I guess he's lucky to be alive.

[MATT BATEMAN (OWC)]

Sounds like it doesn't it.

I bet they go WFP from now on.

[dazmond]

the guy who i worked for 20 years ago smashed his pelvis falling off his ladders.he s still window cleaning now at 67 and still climbing ladders!!

he says that its too late now to go over to wfp!

i also know another guy who is 68 and still climbing ladders.ive seen him climbing on slate roofs to clean a window even when its blowing a gale!!he s been window cleaning for 50 years!!

some guys are too set in their ways to change.

[SunShineCleaning]

This so annoys me. It really is just laziness. The 2 main commercial window cleaners in my area are ladder men. The companies and schools that use them just don't realize their liability.

[windiewasher]

They should all use the system with a mat on the ground.

[SunShineCleaning]

They should all use the system with a mat on the ground.

Damn right! 

[wfp master]

its all about saving money getting the husband to do the school.

[richywilts]

i went to quote a hotel yesterday 3 storey with basement window on street with railing round

this one http://www.roscoehouse-apartments.co.uk/

trad cleaning doing it off a ladder reason being the client doesnt like the glass being broken all the time by wfp bowever there quite willing for the window cleaner to break bones and possibly kill himself one by falling hitting deck or two by impaling himself on the railing

i said you know what i value my life and my staffs il let him keep this job at £45!!

 

[SB Cleaning]

i went to quote a hotel yesterday 3 storey with basement window on street with railing round

this one http://www.roscoehouse-apartments.co.uk/

trad cleaning doing it off a ladder reason being the client doesnt like the glass being broken all the time by wfp bowever there quite willing for the window cleaner to break bones and possibly kill himself one by falling hitting deck or two by impaling himself on the railing

i said you know what i value my life and my staffs il let him keep this job at £45!!

 

What do you mean the glass being broken by wfp all the time

[richywilts]

they must of pressed to hard on the glass and popped it

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

Ows ya van big rich??

[richywilts]

STILL IN BITS MATE INJECTORS STUCK IN THE HEAD SO PROB GONNA GET IT UP N RUNNING AND PART EX IT IN

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

Told u got a Laguna ere take engine
Out change turbo all done 5 ton

[chrismyrie]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but whos liable for personal injury on property?,The self employed window cleaner (thats supposed to do a risk assesmet) or the client?....and are there differences between commercial and domestic?

[Mike #1]

Regarding 61 yr old windy falling the school's estate contractor witnessed the fall someone who should have known far better in this day and age .

And a similar thing to what Sunshine cleaning has said most commercial work in my area is also done by 2 trad window cleaning companies .

Including the Town hall in the next town but it is more about who knows who and no doubt they are cheap . Mike

[Total shine cleaning services]

if there is a fall, would the hse not have to be notified and also I know the cleaner is at fault but surely the school is liable as they are paying for the service..?

graham

[Spruce]

if there is a fall, would the hse not have to be notified and also I know the cleaner is at fault but surely the school is liable as they are paying for the service..?

graham

In the UK, the hospital was responsible for recording all injuries they were called on to attend at A&E.

When I nearly cut my thumb off with an angle grinder one Sunday 10 years ago, I was quizzed by several members of staff about this accident, ensuring that it was a DIY accident rather than an accident at work. I asked why and was told that the hospital was required to report it if it was an industrial accident.

Each business is also required to run an accident register which they have to complete by law. Following up on hospital cases is the easiest for H & S.

[robertphil]

my employee insurance isa up for renewal ,im on ladders and one quote I got yesterday covered for up to 15 metres on ladders,i kid you not

 generally speaking the industry insurance standard for ladder window clean is " up to 10 metres" , I personally only work to 7 metres