[Bens windows]

UPDATE :  I have narrowed it down to 1 Polish and 1 English,they are both the same age ,The Polish is coming out with me tomorrow and The English is Tuesday ,so I should decide by Wednesday !

[G Griffin]

Just my 2bob on Americans...
I hate the 'do the math' thing too.
I particularly hated the
'Have a nice day' thing.
Stereophonics even wrote a song about it!
This was before I'd been there though. While there a number of people said 'have a nice day' to us. Bus boys, taxi drivers waiters etc.
I am a real skeptic and tend to think the worst of people until proven otherwise but when the yanks (you can say yank-its only racist if you mean offence (my mum says!)) said it-I genuinely believed them. It felt...nice.
Perhaps we don't understand a culture until we are immersed in it...

thats the problem though, i'm sure most yanks are great on their own, but i sometimes feel as if this country IS immersed in their culture especially when people who should know better like middle aged telly presenters go 'i'm loving it '      i know kids adopt other slang & copy stuff but honestly.   

MAYBE its not americans i dont like, maybe its just english who copy americans hmmmm

Hell, yeah; awesome post, dude.

[CLEANCARE WC]

I could not be bothered to read the thread. Personally I would reccomend bees wax if you cant source this I would go for Mr sheen, It shines umpteen things clean you know!

Hope this helps.

Don't bother replying then.

Its called a sense of humour. I read the thread but you know that dont you.
No time to argue with strangers im off to bed.

[home6442]

There are some very good Water Fed Poles  

[PoleKing]

Bens Gutters, I thought were based in Surrey...
A customer of mine in Grantham had Ben's Gutters do theirs.
50% cheaper than a load of other quotes and the customer couldn't praise them enough.

[jimiwindows]

i would go for the  Polish thay work a lot harder

[home6442]

There are lazy Polish as well as lazy locals.
I wonder how these people who come out with statements like go for
Polish because they work harder will feel in future, when their kids are not given a
chance because they are local and branded lazy.
By the same reason why not give all their own customers to Polish cleaning firms
as they would do a better job.

[Pete Thompson]

Today's employee is tomorrow's competitor.

Do we really want to open the door of our industry to an army of eastern european workers who will happy to earn half what we earn?  It won't take them long to realise they dont need to be employed, and can easily go-it alone, charge less and still be better off.  Imagine how quickly word will spread in their community.

And all because they learned how easy it was to earn good money by being employed by someone for a year.

Very dangerous road to go down if you ask me, not just for you but for us all.

(and btw, nobody could blame eastern europeans for this, if I was polish I would do exactly the same.)

[Bens windows]

There are some very good Water Fed Poles  

Haha good one

[Bens windows]

Bens Gutters, I thought were based in Surrey...
A customer of mine in Grantham had Ben's Gutters do theirs.
50% cheaper than a load of other quotes and the customer couldn't praise them enough.

Just found there website http://www.bensgutters.com/#/areas-we-service/4533262190

Must be a franchised company,well marketed and must be doing pretty good.

[Bens windows]

There are lazy Polish as well as lazy locals.
I wonder how these people who come out with statements like go for
Polish because they work harder will feel in future, when their kids are not given a
chance because they are local and branded lazy.
By the same reason why not give all their own customers to Polish cleaning firms
as they would do a better job.

Good point,and if they did take over the cleaning firms ,would they take on only polish?

[Bens windows]

Today's employee is tomorrow's competitor.

Do we really want to open the door of our industry to an army of eastern european workers who will happy to earn half what we earn?  It won't take them long to realise they dont need to be employed, and can easily go-it alone, charge less and still be better off.  Imagine how quickly word will spread in their community.

And all because they learned how easy it was to earn good money by being employed by someone for a year.

Very dangerous road to go down if you ask me, not just for you but for us all.

(and btw, nobody could blame eastern europeans for this, if I was polish I would do exactly the same.)

I am starting to agree with all this now, I took the Polish out for a trial run yesterday from 8:30 -4:30 and did what i would normally manage to do in a day with him,

First off,he was on time,presentable,and did what i said and he got the gist of it straightaway , he did seem very abrupt with me and seeemed a little like he was better than me ,but im sure that wouldn't matter as long as he did the work. What did worry me was the questions he was asking ie How much does the equipment cost ,how to make the water etc.. Ive decided to not employ this person as he later told me he had his own house in Poland which had been paid for by his late father , so i dont personally think he is worthy of the job as he doesn't seem like he needs it so much and also one rich customer of mine has specifically told me he HATES  the way they are stealing our jobs and i wonder if a lot of my customers (being of the older generation ) feel the same ! Also we cleaned that very customer with the polish man and i could sense the bitterness ,So deciding to hold out for a Brit ,having said that the English guy i was supposed to take out today didn't answer his phone !

[Michael Peterson]

definatly dont call that british guy again

[g.brookes]

im finding this whole thread pretty uncomfortable.  Its basically is coming down to debating which nationality are better to employ, which is essentially a redundant debate. 
Employ the individual, not the passport.  You should never need to discuss the nationality of your employee.  And with regards to you customer who hates polish people, I would dump him, rather than not employ a Polish person because your customer doesnt like them.

[Viktor]

I am starting to agree with all this now, I took the Polish out for a trial run yesterday from 8:30 -4:30 and did what i would normally manage to do in a day with him,

First off,he was on time,presentable,and did what i said and he got the gist of it straightaway , he did seem very abrupt with me and seeemed a little like he was better than me ,but im sure that wouldn't matter as long as he did the work. What did worry me was the questions he was asking ie How much does the equipment cost ,how to make the water etc.. Ive decided to not employ this person as he later told me he had his own house in Poland which had been paid for by his late father , so i dont personally think he is worthy of the job as he doesn't seem like he needs it so much and also one rich customer of mine has specifically told me he HATES  the way they are stealing our jobs and i wonder if a lot of my customers (being of the older generation ) feel the same ! Also we cleaned that very customer with the polish man and i could sense the bitterness ,So deciding to hold out for a Brit ,having said that the English guy i was supposed to take out today didn't answer his phone !

interesting point....
I am not polish, but still an eastern European  and have my own round, have not felt any bitterness while working last 2 years. in fact most of my customers do recommend me and my best work come through recommendations.
 

[Pro-Poler]

I haven't read all of this thread as it got tedious, I do get concerned sometimes these days when if you try to provide for your family and attempt to protect the future interests of your children you're percieved to be a racist.

[Pro-Poler]

Been doing the rounds on facebook that if you are of a specific faith you can be excempt from the bedroom tax if your bedroom is used as a prayer room (whatever that is?) Like I said the path this country is taking worries me and I don't know what kind of a society my son will be living in we are gradually becoming a country who are racist against their own people. 

[andyM]

The term "racist" is used far too freely in my opinion.
Im certain that some people do not have the first clue of what the true definition of a racist is, but they are all too quick to accuse someone of being racist without proper reason.
 

[Fin Clearview]

Keep it British - is that racist. You gotta be kidding. That's what's wrong with this country not enough who stand up for our own. We need to look after our own before we all lose our jobs or start working for a pitence.

[Pro-Poler]

The term "racist" is used far too freely in my opinion.
Im certain that some people do not have the first clue of what the true definition of a racist is, but they are all too quick to accuse someone of being racist without proper reason.
 

Absoloutly Andy Hitler was a racist, I think it's the politically correct indigineous types who pedal this drivel, maybe their racist and take the view that they need to speak up for some because they think they aren't capable.