[one eyed window cleaning]

Dont see why they would sell them any cheaper Steve? But a new set of 22s is top of to buy list ;-)

I was only joking Ads, just to irratate the ones who brought the slx's that were on sale 

   LoL

[dd]

whats wrong with the current clamps ? - never had any probs with them

very tempted to get the slx 30 thats on sale at present but interested in the specs for the new range.

the x-line looks good  but prob stick with what i know for carrying spares etc...

Darran

Mine constantly need adjusting due to uneven pole wear.

I did a poll on here a while back and the majority of those who responded experienced the same problem of having to adjust clamps on an hourly basis. To help counter this I generally do not fully close sections so the clamps bite on a less worn section. (I do look after my poles, keep pole hose clean etc.)

[ben M]

whats wrong with the current clamps ? - never had any probs with them

very tempted to get the slx 30 thats on sale at present but interested in the specs for the new range.

the x-line looks good  but prob stick with what i know for carrying spares etc...

Darran

Mine constantly need adjusting due to uneven pole wear.

I did a poll on here a while back and the majority of those who responded experienced the same problem of having to adjust clamps on an hourly basis. To help counter this I generally do not fully close sections so the clamps bite on a less worn section. (I do look after my poles, keep pole hose clean etc.)

i know mine is the same and after just a year i have 2 worn sections. I will probably buy a facelift when i can change it ( i clean completely my pole every week)

[Smudger]

is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?

Darran

[ben M]

is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ? YES
or at various places along the length?

Darran

[Pro-Poler]

is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?

Darran

the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins

[Alex Gardiner]

is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?

Darran

the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins

This sounds like you have a faulty section as this is not a usual feature!
Drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk and I can look into replacing this for you.

[p1w1]

is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?

Darran

the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins

i reckon i have the exact same problem on 2 sections of a slx i brought a couple of weeks back,  from brand new i found the top section of the pole (last 3 inches or so) was thinner the the bottom of the section so i have been having the problem when i have to slightly adjust it for the top by tightening it i cant then fully close the clamp when pole was extended or if it did lock over it was very hard to undo the clamp to collapse it. I wanted to measure the outside diameter of the pole but dont have the right tool for the job (verniers i think). I thought it wasn't the case but now you have said the same thing it must be a slight difference in outside diameter.
I also have a brand new slx i haven't even unwrapped so i'm gonna see if thats the same. Also i know it cant be the clamp that's loosening as there is some sort of clue on the thread of the bolt to stop this happening.


Paul

[Smudger]

Paul - yes a digital vernier or micrometer is waht you need - pop into any engineering co. and i'm sure
they would quickly measure the size for you.

The wear on mine ( over 3 years ) is on the first inch or so - my opinion is this will happen regardless
of any clamp design/company - i started out with brodex 18 ft pole ( aluminium ) and the same wear evident on that pole - different clamp design and differnet pole materials

Darran

[8weekly]

whats wrong with the current clamps ?

They come unglued.

[Smudger]

re glue them !

i use superglue gel - never to come apart again 

Darran

[8weekly]

Paul - yes a digital vernier or micrometer is waht you need - pop into any engineering co. and i'm sure
they would quickly measure the size for you.

The wear on mine ( over 3 years ) is on the first inch or so - my opinion is this will happen regardless
of any clamp design/company

I agree. I had the same problem with xtel poles.

[p1w1]

i agree with what your saying, this pole is only a few weeks old tho..
To be honest all previous poles ive had from gardiners have been fine the odd clamp coming loose which i just glued back on (although i do think the clamps could be improved on as ive found they do need constant adjusting a bit after a while), just this one needed adjusting from the start..i have had something similar before with a couple of older poles when i brought a couple of extensions for a 22ft slx where as  1 of the poles base section fitted into the extensions the other one wouldn't (would only go in about 5 - 6 inches then wouldn't budge) in fairness alex did mention  to contact him about it but it wasn't necessary for it to fit both poles so didn't bother.
So i do think that not every pole is exactly the same diameter but i also would think that this would be almost impossible to get every pole the same there must be some tolerance differences to be expected.

[Alex Gardiner]

is the uneven wear at the point where the pole is fully closed ie.. the first inch of each section ?
or at various places along the length?

Darran

the slx i have just bought is thinner at the fully closed end to prevent excessive wear so if you fully collapse it it spins

i reckon i have the exact same problem on 2 sections of a slx i brought a couple of weeks back,  from brand new i found the top section of the pole (last 3 inches or so) was thinner the the bottom of the section so i have been having the problem when i have to slightly adjust it for the top by tightening it i cant then fully close the clamp when pole was extended or if it did lock over it was very hard to undo the clamp to collapse it. I wanted to measure the outside diameter of the pole but dont have the right tool for the job (verniers i think). I thought it wasn't the case but now you have said the same thing it must be a slight difference in outside diameter.
I also have a brand new slx i haven't even unwrapped so i'm gonna see if thats the same. Also i know it cant be the clamp that's loosening as there is some sort of clue on the thread of the bolt to stop this happening.


Paul

Hi Paul

It sounds as if you have also got a section that is faulty. Drop me an email on alex@agardiner.co.uk with the details and we can get this sorted for you.

[dd]

Paul - yes a digital vernier or micrometer is waht you need - pop into any engineering co. and i'm sure
they would quickly measure the size for you.

The wear on mine ( over 3 years ) is on the first inch or so - my opinion is this will happen regardless
of any clamp design/company - i started out with brodex 18 ft pole ( aluminium ) and the same wear evident on that pole - different clamp design and differnet pole materials

Darran

I did not have the same issues with the univerals and xtel poles I used to use. Clamps needed adjusting occasionally but not hourly or even more.

I think/hope Alex has resolved this now. Having been using one of the new quick loc fittings on my brush and find it good as it stops brush twisting on the thread.

[Mike #1]

re glue them !

i use superglue gel - never to come apart again 

Darran

Which glue do you use out of interest just ordered S-Max and would like a glue which actually works as lot of super glues are pretty useless .

Used time bond glue around the house which is fantastic but really needs a good 12 hrs or so to fully set . Mike

[8weekly]

re glue them !

i use superglue gel - never to come apart again 

Darran

Which glue do you use out of interest just ordered S-Max and would like a glue which actually works as lot of super glues are pretty useless .

Used time bond glue around the house which is fantastic but really needs a good 12 hrs or so to fully set . Mike

I think Gardiner's recommend an epoxy based one. I have used the one they supply and perhaps it is the way I do it, but the fix only lasts 2-3 months. It doesn't cost a huge amount of time, but it is annoying.

[steven ainger]

I find the 2part glue Gardiners supply crap to.
I use the araldite 2 part epoxy, i find that better

[Alex Gardiner]

re glue them !

i use superglue gel - never to come apart again 

Darran

Which glue do you use out of interest just ordered S-Max and would like a glue which actually works as lot of super glues are pretty useless .

Used time bond glue around the house which is fantastic but really needs a good 12 hrs or so to fully set . Mike

We do not sell our poles in the anticipation that clamps will become detached  and in reality this rarely happens.

Most twin pack epoxy based glues will work well - the key is in the surface preparation.

With most of my current prototype and testing poles I do not glue the clamps on at all. I simply put a wrap of insulating tape around the end of the section and jam the clamp body on to the section - works well and would also work if a clamp did come loose during a day's work - only about a minute's downtime.

[Mike #1]

Thanks Alex been using an Elite for almost 2yrs now so just want to be prepared like a boy scout . Thanks again Mike