[JW1]

Hi 

I've finally decided to go WFP, and I have contacted various companies for quotes.

I think I want a fully fitted van system, with a trolley as back-up for use on certain jobs.

I've contacted Brodex, Ionic, K Systems, Pure Freedom and Grippatank.

I live near Oxford/Milton Keynes and can't seem to find anyone closer to me than Ionic at Swindon.

I have no mains drainage, so waste water is a BIG concern (unless I pay to have a large soakaway put in the garden  )

Anyway, here are my findings so far, can anyone offer any advice please;

Brodex have been helpful and have quoted £2800 for the following;

E500RO Van Mounted pure water cleaning machine
Installation at Brodex
Security Manifold under bumper or side of van
Steel Hose Reels with 100m 8mm Hose
Battery pack with split relay
HA18 – 18ft Hydra Alloy poles complete with Trigger

They also offer a 50l trolley, but it seems massive and probably too heavy (85KG when filled  )

Ionic said the most suitable system for me is the Pro6 system, because they said it is an 80/20 system so the reject water will be low.

Other people have said that it isn't an 80/20 system, so is it just sales talk?

They basically want £5,000 without a trolley.

K Systems have had very good communications, but I am wary because of some of the stuff I've read on here about them. They've offered the following;

350l baffled upright holding tank
Tank cage
Auto shut off
2 X 10” prefilters
40 x 40 RO inox holding unit and membrane
100psi delivery pump
Electronic flow controller
DI resin vessel
Stainless external port
1 X 100m microbore hose on reel
1 X 17’ reach carbonfibre pole and brush.
Stainless fixtures and fittings.
£2250 inclusive.
Additional extras if required
Battery and relay £100

Pure Freedom were very helpful, but they only suggested an IBC setup in the garage and a trolley - total cost around £1600

Grippatank want around £3500 for a 400l 1 man system with SLX pole - I think that includes fitting at home (I'm waiting an answer on a few things).

I don't want hassle, and I don't fancy DIY.  Ideally I want a warranty (if it's worth it).  I would drive to Grimsby/Liverpool etc if necessary but it's not ideal, and I'd be concerned how convenient it will be for ongoing problems

I'm a one man band only working 5 hours trad a day - not looking to expand.

I can't really dump hundreds of litres of waste on my garden each day, so that's a big consideration for me.

I was tempted by the 80/20 promise that Ionic gave, but if that is just pushing a normal 50/50 system beyond it's normal limits, then I can't really justify the cost (it's by far the most expensive system I've looked at).

Sorry if my understanding of WFP isn't quite there yet, I'm new to this.  I've deliberately not mentioned any contact names from each of the companies.

I'd really appreciate any help, as I'm looking to make a decision within the next week or so.

Thanks in advance
 

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

Do you not have a manhole anywhere in your garden?
I run my waste pipe straight into the sewer via a manhole

[JW1]

No manhole anywhere I'm afraid

The rainwater goes into a soakaway (which barely copes now), and house waste goes into a septic talk (with liquid draining into a soakaway which barely copes now)

[Ian Lancaster]

Was going to suggest you run the waste back into your house and into the waste pipe from your sink/bath/shower or whatever.  Obviously not practical in your case.  Where do you live? St Kilda???

[tlwcs]

Do you not know anyone local who could show you how easy it is, perhaps help?
You may even be able to buy water locally.
Tony

[Dave Garrett]

Mate Purefreedom second to none ...also they have never let me down always avail via phone to talk you thru any problems ...Have 4040 ro system static in garden and fitted van 350ltr system from them A1

[JW1]

Where do you live? St Kilda???

LOL - believe it or not I'm only 100 metres from an A road - but no gas or mains drainage at all, not even a drain in the road at the front

[HampshireWindowCleaning]

You may be better off buying your pure water if you have anywhere local that supplies it.
Or set up a rainwater harvest, thats what im working on at the mo.
3x 1000 litre IBC's in the garage, collect rain from my garage roof and pump it through my 25L di, free pure water forever.

[JW1]

Do you not know anyone local who could show you how easy it is, perhaps help?
You may even be able to buy water locally.
Tony

I've no-one locally that I can ask, and I looked into buying the pure but hit a bit of a dead end locally

Mate Purefreedom second to none ...also they have never let me down always avail via phone to talk you thru any problems ...Have 4040 ro system static in garden and fitted van 350ltr system from them A1

I've heard nothing but good things about them, but Grimsby is a long way from me 

You may be better off buying your pure water if you have anywhere local that supplies it.
Or set up a rainwater harvest, thats what im working on at the mo.
3x 1000 litre IBC's in the garage, collect rain from my garage roof and pump it through my 25L di, free pure water forever.

I was thinking of that as a last resort but I'd rather generate the pure myself if I'm able to

[robert mitchell]

I use a 4040 from pure20 and I paid 2250 including a grafter pole and fitting .
They are ionics cheaper version and fitted at swindon , crash tested tank and frame but the advantage of standard 4040 which means cheaper spares and maintenence.
Dont get there poles though , get gardiners .

Can you not run waste out to the a road or is that not possible ?

[home6442]

Whats the tds of your tap water.
If its low what about a D.I. only system.

[JW1]

I use a 4040 from pure20 and I paid 2250 including a grafter pole and fitting .
They are ionics cheaper version and fitted at swindon , crash tested tank and frame but the advantage of standard 4040 which means cheaper spares and maintenence.
Dont get there poles though , get gardiners .

Can you not run waste out to the a road or is that not possible ?

They quoted for one of those - Came to £4k with a Grafter pole, split charger, hose and reel and extra pump/controller for backup

Whats the tds of your tap water.
If its low what about a D.I. only system.

I've measured it twice - 412 and 380 

[DG Cleaning]

Why not build your own system (its very easy) then go on a big holiday with all the money you've saved.
Some of the prices you have been quoted are ridiculous imo. 

[JW1]

Why not build your own system (its very easy) then go on a big holiday with all the money you've saved.
Some of the prices you have been quoted are ridiculous imo. 

Basically, I've got no practical skills.

[paul marshall]

im a brodex man 13 months now , no problems [ so far ] ask for john an tell him your on clean it up he may knock another 50 quid or more off 

[PoleKing]

If you've got the space I'd do the static IBC suggested.
What van have you got?

[Xline Systems]

Hi 

I've finally decided to go WFP, and I have contacted various companies for quotes.

I think I want a fully fitted van system, with a trolley as back-up for use on certain jobs.

I've contacted Brodex, Ionic, K Systems, Pure Freedom and Grippatank.

I live near Oxford/Milton Keynes and can't seem to find anyone closer to me than Ionic at Swindon.

I have no mains drainage, so waste water is a BIG concern (unless I pay to have a large soakaway put in the garden  )

Anyway, here are my findings so far, can anyone offer any advice please;

Brodex have been helpful and have quoted £2800 for the following;

E500RO Van Mounted pure water cleaning machine
Installation at Brodex
Security Manifold under bumper or side of van
Steel Hose Reels with 100m 8mm Hose
Battery pack with split relay
HA18 – 18ft Hydra Alloy poles complete with Trigger

They also offer a 50l trolley, but it seems massive and probably too heavy (85KG when filled  )

Ionic said the most suitable system for me is the Pro6 system, because they said it is an 80/20 system so the reject water will be low.

Other people have said that it isn't an 80/20 system, so is it just sales talk?

They basically want £5,000 without a trolley.

K Systems have had very good communications, but I am wary because of some of the stuff I've read on here about them. They've offered the following;

350l baffled upright holding tank
Tank cage
Auto shut off
2 X 10” prefilters
40 x 40 RO inox holding unit and membrane
100psi delivery pump
Electronic flow controller
DI resin vessel
Stainless external port
1 X 100m microbore hose on reel
1 X 17’ reach carbonfibre pole and brush.
Stainless fixtures and fittings.
£2250 inclusive.
Additional extras if required
Battery and relay £100

Pure Freedom were very helpful, but they only suggested an IBC setup in the garage and a trolley - total cost around £1600

Grippatank want around £3500 for a 400l 1 man system with SLX pole - I think that includes fitting at home (I'm waiting an answer on a few things).

I don't want hassle, and I don't fancy DIY.  Ideally I want a warranty (if it's worth it).  I would drive to Grimsby/Liverpool etc if necessary but it's not ideal, and I'd be concerned how convenient it will be for ongoing problems

I'm a one man band only working 5 hours trad a day - not looking to expand.

I can't really dump hundreds of litres of waste on my garden each day, so that's a big consideration for me.

I was tempted by the 80/20 promise that Ionic gave, but if that is just pushing a normal 50/50 system beyond it's normal limits, then I can't really justify the cost (it's by far the most expensive system I've looked at).

Sorry if my understanding of WFP isn't quite there yet, I'm new to this.  I've deliberately not mentioned any contact names from each of the companies.

I'd really appreciate any help, as I'm looking to make a decision within the next week or so.

Thanks in advance
 

we have some great deals cracking off on our aluminium framed systems at the mo, i think we could offer a competative quotation from what i have seen above

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Just as an idea you could harvest rainwater running it through a di, this would mean that your soak away garden wasn't working as hard, and if there is no rain have a small RO unit as back up, obviously it wouldn't matter about the RO soaking away if there hasn't been any rain.

I hear a lot of good things on here about Pure Freedom and Grippatank.  Grippatank is crash tested and the SLX is a brilliant pole. Your pole is probably one of the most important decisions, as if you get it wrong you are throwing money away and causing yourself injury at the same time.

Whatever system you have with whatever guarantees, you will need to get hands on with it, so you will need to learn DIY otherwise you will find yourself up the creek without a paddle. Things do break down, but can often be fixed easily with just a few tools and replacement parts.

Simon.

[richard jagger]

I build my hot Pure system for half your cheapest quote.

[ben M]

Please don't buy K systems, you can't trust this guy!