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john martin

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Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« on: March 18, 2013, 06:27:20 pm »

 Others have mentioned this is coming ... but i see a few specs now .

http://www.prochem.co.uk/endeavor.htm


 Some nice features , like the way the heater slides in , giving an internal/external use option i presume .

 Rotary vane pump ? have we seen that before ?  This is what im getting on a google search ...
 http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v5/231730913/Rotary_Vane_Water_Pump_B125F.jpg

Weight looks good enough at 50kg .

 Twin 6.6  ....   the 279CFM looks right ...  the 154" lift looks optimistic , nobodys got more than 130 i'v seen , but near enough .

Fairly expensive though . 

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 06:42:14 pm »
I can't see it being much different from the competition it's a dedicated carpet cleaning machine with the 150 or 250 psi water pump not really sure that 800 psi was needed anyway on other models although the jag I had a great free flowing pump it was very good.

I think the higher price is to allow for the supplier to make a chunk as well as offering discounts of rrp.

Shaun

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2013, 06:52:21 pm »
Don't like that at all, and very expensive.

Ashbys Enforcer would be a better purchase.

Andrew@Approved Carpet Cleaning

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2013, 07:06:13 pm »
Not convinced. Yes i know looks are'nt everything, but it looks very dated. Much better looking and performing machines out there.
Andrew
Approved Carpet Cleaning of Flitwick
www.carpetcleaningbedfordshire.co.uk

stuart_clark

  • Posts: 1879
Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 07:11:59 pm »
I still think the Storm is the best 6.6 machine out there! best build quality best looks and best price

Len Gribble

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 07:39:08 pm »
I like idea for the wand holder, wonder where they got that from :D
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 07:47:57 pm »
Dont see the point in the wand holder myself. Dont you have to take it off when loading or off loading from the van anyway.

I presume you cant adjust the pump?

Body is a bit dated too.

Apart from that, i'm sure it cleans fine  ;D

Kev Loomes

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2013, 08:04:52 pm »
Agree, don't like that at all! And surely wouldn't it have been better to reduce the heat to a 2kw and then put another vac on? As opposed to one vac and 3kw heater?

M.Acorn

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 08:10:15 pm »
Only 2 years on the tank !! Was 7 on the Sieempro
What goes around comes around

john martin

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 08:26:15 pm »
Agree, don't like that at all! And surely wouldn't it have been better to reduce the heat to a 2kw and then put another vac on? As opposed to one vac and 3kw heater?


Its a twin vac ,  or do u mean 2kw+ a vac on one cord ?

it would be good if its a two cable machine including the heater , but id say the heater is third cord . Dont know .   3kw is worth having  .

I dont find the looks too bad  , although the Enforcer looks much more robust and well built , Storm and evolution look quality too .

Its an Edic body like before  , might look better in the flesh
this is the US  T&G version

http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00GsiQaeHgvuoM/Edic-1200-Psi-Endeavor-Grout-and-Tile-Carpet-Multi-Purpose-Extractor-Cleaner.jpg

Russ Chadd

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2013, 09:28:59 pm »
Seriously... Prochem are a little late in offering us this machine... cheaper machines on the market with similar if not better features.
If it has an inline heater which can be use in or out of the machine... then i like this feature

Kev Loomes

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2013, 09:42:03 pm »
I probably read it wrong lol, thought it said one vac.

neilwebber

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2013, 05:13:05 pm »
I saw this model at the Cleaning Show today.  I agree that the water pump seems to be a bit under powered, and the opening for the clean solution tank seemed to be a bit awkward (depending on the shape of your bucket).  It looked a bit of a beast as well !

stuart_clark

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2013, 08:37:15 pm »
Kev
It says dual vacs mate

Kev Loomes

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2013, 09:14:41 pm »
Oh ok cheers for clearing that up Stu.

jim mca

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2013, 09:23:43 pm »
Its not just the psi of the pump but the flow rate that counts the 800psi pumps have a good flow rate at 150psi so can flush much better than a 150psi pump and if its the same heat n run inline its pants compared with a magma heater

Russ Chadd

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2013, 11:43:49 am »
Jim is correct... i compared the flow rate between both of my machines... one is regulated to a max of 400 psi and the other 150 psi.
when the 400 was turned down to 150 both machines gave similar output using the same wand

john martin

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 12:17:07 pm »

Flow seems linked to the HP of the motor ,  in the endeavor flow might depend on what rotary vane pump is used and how big the motor driving it , looking at  the proconpumps website , they have rotary pumps that can do 140us gph on a 1/2HP @ 250psi  ,  which would i think be comparable flow to the big motored pumptecs .

Mark_Jubb

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2013, 10:55:45 pm »
Saw it at the Cleaning show today and didn't particularly like it at all.
Very bulky, very heavy. Wand holding straps on the front looked cheap and the magnetic device for holding the lid open on the clean water tank either didn't work or was completely missing. I think there are probably some better value machines available.
If there isn't enough time to do the job right,  how do we find the time to go back and do it again when the customer is not happy ?   Do it right the 1st Time.
NCCA Member 1399.  Swindon, Wiltshire

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Prochem Endeavor 6.6
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2013, 11:49:10 pm »
I just posted a picture of the internals on our facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/cleaningsystemsuk

Cant like the image from my phone.