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Steve H

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pure freedom - trolley version
« on: March 11, 2013, 04:21:50 pm »
Hi chaps,

I know im off work today and asking questions, however, just wondered who uses or has used the pure freedom wfp trolley version?
It carries 25 litres at a time and looks a really solid piece of kit. I will be using it for those hard to reach windows and houses that i cant reach with a laader etc. Will still do trad a s well for now, so wont be using it all day every day.
Any feed back or alternatives fellas is much appreciated, good or not so good - thanks in advance

Steve
If you reach for the stars and only reach the moon, you will have acheived more than you thought you could.

mattstanley

Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 04:37:41 pm »
I had a Pure Freedom trolley for ages - great piece of kit. You could knock something up cheaper if you went down the DIY route, but I liked the fact you got it out of the box and it worked straight away.

Then, when you decide that you want to change over to wfp totally, it can stay in your vehicle, add a tank and hose reel and you've got a van system.

HampshireWindowCleaning

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 04:39:55 pm »
I'd highly recommend them, I bought mine about 4 years ago and it's still going strong.
I don't even use it as a trolley now, i've got it rigged into a 350 litre tank and use it as a van mounted system, but if I need to I can whip it out the van and use it as a trolley again.

mattstanley

Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 05:33:17 pm »
I'd highly recommend them, I bought mine about 4 years ago and it's still going strong.
I don't even use it as a trolley now, i've got it rigged into a 350 litre tank and use it as a van mounted system, but if I need to I can whip it out the van and use it as a trolley again.

Exactly.
IMO, if you're going for a trolley, this is the best - well made and looks professional.

wfp master

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 05:39:59 pm »
get a backpack & trolley for about £120 from john hewitt holds about 20 litres.

landy2

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 05:53:05 pm »
i have one  , i also have van system , but the trolley comes into its own when doing hard to reach houses were you would have to drag pipe to far , also its great for days when its cold you can bring it into house over night keeps you going in emergenceys  ;D but saying this my battery has gone does anyone know were you can get a new one cheers

HampshireWindowCleaning

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 06:19:25 pm »
i have one  , i also have van system , but the trolley comes into its own when doing hard to reach houses were you would have to drag pipe to far , also its great for days when its cold you can bring it into house over night keeps you going in emergenceys  ;D but saying this my battery has gone does anyone know were you can get a new one cheers
I'm on my 3rd battery, you can get them in golf shops, they're the same as the ones in golf trolleys.
Cost around £70 if I remember rightly.

landy2

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 06:26:35 pm »
many thanks

keyser soze

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2013, 06:29:30 pm »
pure freedom sells replacement batts

Steve H

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2013, 06:33:18 pm »
Thanks fellas for the replies, has given me some confidence in the trolley system as they arent cheap to buy, but nothing usually is thats worthwhile having.
If you reach for the stars and only reach the moon, you will have acheived more than you thought you could.

dazmond

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2013, 06:39:20 pm »
i had one for 2 and half years with no problems until the digital flow controller packed up.i was glad to get rid of it to be honest in the end as a pumpbox with a tank is all i need.

no need for a trolley.van mount for all my work.its a good trolley though if you think you need one but i can get a hose to the windows quicker than messing around humping trolley and barrels about and with less effort.


regards
price higher/work harder!

Steve H

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2013, 06:48:58 pm »
Hi Dazmond,

I am looking to go down the van mount route, particularly after the feedback i have had.
If you were setting up a van mount now, what would you go for to keep the cost reasonable? as you mentioned a pump box (not sure what that is)... unless its just a pump for the water flow.

I know i need all the RO/DI units etc to filter the water, then probs store it in the garage and transfer in the morning i assume, unless some people do this in the van as they go ?

Anyway, if you have the time, a quick note on the best way forward in your opinion with regards the most cost effective van mount system would be good. Im not short of money, but dont want to go down the route of buying all the wrong gear if i can help it obviously.

Many thanks

Steve
If you reach for the stars and only reach the moon, you will have acheived more than you thought you could.

HampshireWindowCleaning

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2013, 07:03:54 pm »
Although i'd recommend the Pure Freedom trolley, I wouldn't recommend their 100m hose reel, drives me mad the hose slipping off the reel and getting tangled up  :(

Frankybadboy

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2013, 07:04:37 pm »
i had one for 2 and half years with no problems until the digital flow controller packed up.i was glad to get rid of it to be honest in the end as a pumpbox with a tank is all i need.

no need for a trolley.van mount for all my work.its a good trolley though if you think you need one but i can get a hose to the windows quicker than messing around humping trolley and barrels about and with less effort.


regards
but didnt you buy a 50 ltr trolley system,

which many of us said dont :P :P :P :P :P


i have a trolley and i use it when it needs to be used,i run a van mont for the two of us.
i just class it as another tool in the box

the p/f trolleys are sound and robust.

dazmond

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2013, 08:18:57 pm »
i used the 50L version for a year as a trolley then as a van mount for a year and a half.hindsight is a wonderful thing!i should of gone van mount from day one!! ;D ;D ;D

steve ive no idea what your tap tds is?whether you on a water meter?so many factors to consider.how big is your van and what work do you do?mainly domestic/commercial?are you a sole trader or employ or plan to employ? ??? ??? ???
price higher/work harder!

Steve H

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2013, 09:22:14 pm »
Hi Dazmond,
Thanks for getting back, i know you cant give me a definate answer as there are so many different factors, but just a guide to avoid those pitfalls if possible would be great when you have the time.
I am a sole trader and only do domestic stuff for now, so no high buildings to reach etc. only residential properties. I am building and it seems to be going in the right direction for now anyway.
Not on a water meter, not sure of TDS but the water is very hard down here, the van will be a medium sized van, something like a Mercedes Vito size. Hope thats enough info to give me a guide, appreciate your time, as said only looking for guidance as ultimately it will be my decision which way i go with things.
Thanks, Steve
If you reach for the stars and only reach the moon, you will have acheived more than you thought you could.

g.brookes

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2013, 10:40:37 pm »
i have the 50 litre version.  it's ok.  ive had it for 18 months and all the connections and most of the screws have come lose.  the metal contruction is great but cos it moves around a lot more than a van system it takes knocks.  i really need to take it all apart and re do all the connections etc.  it is very bad for your back.  lifting all the barrels in and out of your van and pulling round a trolley which when carrying 50 litres adds up to almost 8 stone in weight, its ok for a few years but not practical in the long erm at all.  its a very good bridge but i plan to go van mount with a back pack when i have saved up enough for the van system to be set up safely and securely

dazmond

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2013, 09:48:44 am »
g.brookes just buy a tank and 100m of microbore and use the trolley as a van mount mate.itll make your working day easier and you ll be faster for sure.


best wishes
price higher/work harder!

g.brookes

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2013, 05:37:18 pm »
cheers mate i plan to.  problem ive got at mo is if i leave the van doors open you can get access to the front as well so either need a new van with a bulkhead or to fit ports at back of van.  and as i said I want to get it fitted professionally in case of a crash, so either way need a good few pounds before i do it

DG Cleaning

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Re: pure freedom - trolley version
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2013, 06:48:03 pm »
If you want to keep you the cost reasonable then keep it as simple as possible I set my van mount up for less than £500.
It consists of 400l upright tank, pump, car battery, 2 di vessels,
hose reel with 100m of microbore bore hose & a Harris pole which I made myself (see YouTube for instructions)
 You can use a controller but I don't bother I just work fast.
A pump box is basically just a box that somebody has put a pump, battery & controller into but they charge an awful lot for doing so over and above the component parts.
If you live in a hard water area you might need an ro but you need to buy a TDS meter and see (about £15 off eBay)
I bought everything second hand except the hose and reel, the di's were reconditioned off eBay. Nothings failed yet either.
I may upgrade to a Gardiners pole at some point but the Harris is a great little pole and very light. ;D