[♠Winp®oClean♠]

personally i hate it , and it was a right nuisance today when i was doing a conny roof , i can only assume its to save carbon ?

It is to allow us to use thin wall carbon with our standard clamps and maintain full strength when extended. If the walls were made to be the same thickness along their entire length (like an SLX) then the pole would weigh nearly as much as an SLX and would actually be less rigid, than the current Xtreme is now, due to the increased force exerted from the extra weight of the pole - adding material thickness does not necessarily increase rigidity. So if a pole manufacturer claims that their poles are more rigid because of thicker wall sections (rather than better materials used) this will rarely be the case.

So, you are saying a thinner, therefore weaker wall pole is more rigid??? Are you sure you want to claim that on a public forum?

Do you know "anything" about carbon Foxy? Don't go diggin' ya self another huge hole dude!

[Stephen Fox]

personally i hate it , and it was a right nuisance today when i was doing a conny roof , i can only assume its to save carbon ?

It is to allow us to use thin wall carbon with our standard clamps and maintain full strength when extended. If the walls were made to be the same thickness along their entire length (like an SLX) then the pole would weigh nearly as much as an SLX and would actually be less rigid, than the current Xtreme is now, due to the increased force exerted from the extra weight of the pole - adding material thickness does not necessarily increase rigidity. So if a pole manufacturer claims that their poles are more rigid because of thicker wall sections (rather than better materials used) this will rarely be the case.

So, you are saying a thinner, therefore weaker wall pole is more rigid??? Are you sure you want to claim that on a public forum?

Do you know "anything" about carbon Foxy? Don't go diggin' ya self another huge hole dude!

Winpro, you probably know more than me. As far as I know I've never 'dug myself a huge hole' if you know otherwise please let me know. 

[keyser soze]

great ...i love it ... everyone knows alex is da vinci of pole making

[Stephen Fox]

great ...i love it ... everyone knows alex is da vinci of pole making

Really...?

Yet Dave Morris provided the simple answer.....

[Knocker]

Yea Foxy what do you know?? You only sell more window cleaning equipment than any other retailer in the UK

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Yea Foxy what do you know?? You only sell more window cleaning equipment than any other retailer in the UK

Yeah, it's a shame he's so little knowledge of the products he sells.

[DG Cleaning]

Phoenix don't make a full carbon pole do they?

[Stephen Fox]

Phoenix don't make a full carbon pole do they?

Yes we do. We can provide a fully carbon pole if that is what is required.

[Stephen Fox]

Yea Foxy what do you know?? You only sell more window cleaning equipment than any other retailer in the UK

Yeah, it's a shame he's so little knowledge of the products he sells.

Winpro, really? What do you need to know..

[Knocker]

If it wasn't for Steve starting WCW you boys would all be paying full list price for your equipment, so instead of having a go at him all the time you may want to thank him

[DG Cleaning]

Phoenix don't make a full carbon pole do they?

Yes we do. We can provide a fully carbon pole if that is what is required.

I thought the bottom section was fibre glass.
Perhaps I'm mistaken?

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

If it wasn't for Steve starting WCW you boys would all be paying full list price for your equipment, so instead of having a go at him all the time you may want to thank him

Don't be so silly woody, or so naive.

[DG Cleaning]

If it wasn't for Steve starting WCW you boys would all be paying full list price for your equipment, so instead of having a go at him all the time you may want to thank him

Wouldn't we all just pay the market value as with mostly everything?

[Deangsi]

well 3 days on the extreme 25 and i love it big time almost as much as my gf haha. all i need now is a new van to put it in lol 

[Dave Willis]

You could buy yourself a scaffold pole instead I suppose.

[Dave Willis]

Mr Foxman - did you actually read Alex's post or did you just get all excited and post the first thing that came into your head?
Alex explained the thinner walls and why they are used. Do you know anything about pole manufacture?

[Stephen Fox]

Mr Foxman - did you actually read Alex's post or did you just get all excited and post the first thing that came into your head?
Alex explained the thinner walls and why they are used. Do you know anything about pole manufacture?

Mr Willis, yes I did read Alex's post hence what I said. Alex was having a dig at the competition, as other companies use thicker walls to give extra strength, longevity and rigidness - downside is they are marginally heavier.

Are you the same Dave Willis on the other forum?

[Dave Willis]

No, I didn't think Alex was having a dig at anyone. He was just explaining the Xtreme pole (which isn't in competition with yours anyway). Fibreglass poles would be thicker than an Xtreme too but less rigid.

What other forum?

[craig21t]

No, I didn't think Alex was having a dig at anyone. He was just explaining the Xtreme pole (which isn't in competition with yours anyway). Fibreglass poles would be thicker than an Xtreme too but less rigid.

What other forum?

Mmmmmm, when were they discussing different pole materials?

Think the question is whether the same material (carbon in this case) would be stronger if thicker.

[Dave Willis]

There's different grades of carbon and different construction methods. Some manufacturers use a composite mix and so use less carbon. Others put a special weave on the outside to make them look pretty. As far as I know Gardiners are the only company offering clampable high modulus extendable poles at the moment. Facelift as far as I can tell compete against the SLX and not the Xtreme.
As I read it Alex was explaiining how the Xtreme worked and why the walls were thin rather than thick (like some on here).