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Deangsi

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gardiners half way clamping
« on: March 04, 2013, 03:41:41 pm »
hi guys just had my first go with the extreme 25 and the half way clamping is realy odd its going to take some getting used to i think how do you all get on with it? ;D

Carl2009

  • Posts: 806
Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 04:58:35 pm »
Can you describe what this halfway clamp thing is. Surely you can clamp-off as you extend at any length anyway?

Dave Willis

Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 04:59:45 pm »
Not a problem at all.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 06:05:23 pm »
No problem at all, I would actually say it makes life a bit easier. Residential and commercial.

prestigeclean

  • Posts: 618
Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 06:07:58 pm »
personally i hate it , and it was a right nuisance today when i was doing a conny roof , i can only assume its to save carbon ?

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 06:12:43 pm »
I have an early slx xtreme so only halfway adjustment on yhe 4th section. I actualy think it makes life easier it's one less decision to make, just how many sections do I extend rather than how many sections do I extend and how much should I extend then last section.

The halfway clamping points are a great idea to make the pole even more versatile.  It really isn't that hard to get your head around.

Simon.

Dave Willis

Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 06:18:24 pm »
personally i hate it , and it was a right nuisance today when i was doing a conny roof , i can only assume its to save carbon ?

It's to save weight I would imagine.

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 06:45:24 pm »
No problem here. ;)

SB Cleaning

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 07:36:50 pm »
It is a bit weird at first....but you'll get used  to it  :)

Deangsi

  • Posts: 663
Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 09:41:59 pm »
It is a bit weird at first....but you'll get used  to it  :)


That's what I was thinking well at £400 in the sale I will be using it all the time. I just hope I dont decide to take my slx back out and retire the extreme to the van lol some jobs I have I have one section out only a couple of feet so im not sure how it will fare
 having said that I love the regidity of the pole and the weight. The carbon gooseneck was removed in place of the resi neck I couldn't get used to it at all

♠Winp®oClean♠

  • Posts: 4085
Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 09:58:22 pm »
It is a bit weird at first....but you'll get used  to it  :)


That's what I was thinking well at £400 in the sale I will be using it all the time. I just hope I dont decide to take my slx back out and retire the extreme to the van lol some jobs I have I have one section out only a couple of feet so im not sure how it will fare
 having said that I love the regidity of the pole and the weight. The carbon gooseneck was removed in place of the resi neck I couldn't get used to it at all

I have 3 carbon necks but still only use resi-necks.

As for needing just a couple of feet extended, doesn't the base section have two mid-clamping points on the 25ft version? If so, you would just extend the base to the first point, this is what I do with the 47 for any minor length adjustment. ;)

Moderator David@stives

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 11:00:14 pm »
I invented half way clamping

Dave Willis

Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 11:04:24 pm »
Someone has to take the blame I suppose.

John pearce

Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2013, 07:17:25 am »
i have some calls where i only require one lengh out, but if i need another foot to make me not have to stretch

i extend two or three other section another few inches ,  so no problem.   john.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2013, 07:58:04 am »

Alex Gardiner

  • Posts: 7742
Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2013, 08:00:59 am »
hi guys just had my first go with the extreme 25 and the half way clamping is realy odd its going to take some getting used to i think how do you all get on with it? ;D

I still work with an early model Xtreme25 that does not have halfway clamping on any section apart from the base section and even like this it is amazingly adaptable. With halfway clamping on all of the sections now (3 point clamping on the base of the 47ft & no halfway clamping on the Xtreme18 on sale at the moment) you will soon find that that 2.5ft of adjustment is all you actually need and speeds you up in your work day as clamping is a much simpler choice.


Alex Gardiner

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2013, 08:04:42 am »
personally i hate it , and it was a right nuisance today when i was doing a conny roof , i can only assume its to save carbon ?

It is to allow us to use thin wall carbon with our standard clamps and maintain full strength when extended. If the walls were made to be the same thickness along their entire length (like an SLX) then the pole would weigh nearly as much as an SLX and would actually be less rigid, than the current Xtreme is now, due to the increased force exerted from the extra weight of the pole - adding material thickness does not necessarily increase rigidity. So if a pole manufacturer claims that their poles are more rigid because of thicker wall sections (rather than better materials used) this will rarely be the case.

Ian101

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2013, 08:37:20 am »
personally i hate it , and it was a right nuisance today when i was doing a conny roof , i can only assume its to save carbon ?

It is to allow us to use thin wall carbon with our standard clamps and maintain full strength when extended. If the walls were made to be the same thickness along their entire length (like an SLX) then the pole would weigh nearly as much as an SLX and would actually be less rigid, than the current Xtreme is now, due to the increased force exerted from the extra weight of the pole - adding material thickness does not necessarily increase rigidity. So if a pole manufacturer claims that their poles are more rigid because of thicker wall sections (rather than better materials used) this will rarely be the case.

amazing what goes into a pole ............ and I thought it was just a simple thing  :)

MATT BATEMAN (OWC)

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Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2013, 08:57:05 am »
amazing what goes into a pole ............ and I thought it was just a simple thing  :)

That depends, on how picky she is.

Stephen Fox

  • Posts: 471
Re: gardiners half way clamping
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2013, 09:59:08 pm »
personally i hate it , and it was a right nuisance today when i was doing a conny roof , i can only assume its to save carbon ?

It is to allow us to use thin wall carbon with our standard clamps and maintain full strength when extended. If the walls were made to be the same thickness along their entire length (like an SLX) then the pole would weigh nearly as much as an SLX and would actually be less rigid, than the current Xtreme is now, due to the increased force exerted from the extra weight of the pole - adding material thickness does not necessarily increase rigidity. So if a pole manufacturer claims that their poles are more rigid because of thicker wall sections (rather than better materials used) this will rarely be the case.

So, you are saying a thinner, therefore weaker wall pole is more rigid??? Are you sure you want to claim that on a public forum?