[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Hi all well i have done what i never thought i would lol and added HWE to my Dry fusion setup from reading a lot of post i think good agitation is more important than having inline heater or is it not . My question is should my next purchase be an Inline Heater i.e the Magma etc or a decent enough Aggitation Machine as reading alot of people use tap hot or even cold so is an inline even needed

Thanks Phil.

[AshWhite]

Agitation. Not that I think heat is unimportant, but agitation is moreso.

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

I think the same Ash allthough it doe's look good when you see steam coming from the end of wand. I Think i will get a Seb duo or even jst a pile brush i need a work out lol that would be ok for most domestics wouldn't it ?

Cheers Phil.

[davep]

I would use a pile brush over a sebo

[Kinver_Clean]

It depends on the cleaning solutions you use.
Detergents are usually used in the tank and need hot water. One step cleaning.
Microsplitter types are used as a prespray and need agitation then a plain or acid rinse, this can be hot or with me more often cold.
So you have to decide which route you wish to go down.
A lot of people use a Sebo Duo for agitation but find it a little lightweight- a heavier CRB will pay dividends in time saved.
A pile brush is fine but is hard work, by the time you have done a 4 bed house you will know it.

[wynne jones]

It depends on the cleaning solutions you use.
Detergents are usually used in the tank and need hot water. One step cleaning.
Microsplitter types are used as a prespray and need agitation then a plain or acid rinse, this can be hot or with me more often cold.
So you have to decide which route you wish to go down.
A lot of people use a Sebo Duo for agitation but find it a little lightweight- a heavier CRB will pay dividends in time saved.
A pile brush is fine but is hard work, by the time you have done a 4 bed house you will know it.

What he said.

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

A pile brush is fine but is hard work, by the time you have done a 4 bed house you will know it.


Which can only be a good thing lol got a bit of a beer belly i need to shake off  

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

were best place to buy pile brush and anyone got a cheap upholstery tool going and i mean cheap not a sapphire lol.

[james roffey]

I have the Magma and a Host for agitation both are important but the agitation is more omportant

[John Kelly]

Buy a pile brush for now, agitation machines have only appeared in the last couple of years we done quite well without them. Spend the money on a heater. Don't forget only about 30% of the carpet is traffic area.

[Simon@arenaclean]

http://www.prochem.co.uk/carpet_&_upholstery_cleaning%20brushes.htm Get the Grandi Groomer and carpet pile brush both 18". I got the Groomer for a bargain price from Amtech but can't find them on their site, probably worth a call.

I'd agree with everyone else agitation, I use tap hot water and get on fine.

[Mike Halliday]

If I had to choose I would go for aggatation,  I'm a Big believer in making sure the prespray gets to the dirt, a good scrubbing is needed to get the pre-spray  worked into the pile so it has a chance to attack the dirt. If its just sat on he top of the pile it can't do its job

Plus we can tell the client we not only clean the carpet but revitalise the flattened pile.

[Jamie Pearson]

You need a pile brush for finishing anyway.

Why not use your DF to agitate, rinse with tap hot water then set pile with pile brush.

You can even dry it off. There are products available to offer the same stain protection as your DF system that can be used through an extractor.

You could even heat cure them (if that's important)

[Fran84]

I was thinking the same as Jamie.

You have already have agitation with your DF machine. Just buy a brush if you dont already have one.

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

got the Brush for my DF but didn't really want to be using my DF on Domestics were i'm not earning enough i may as well do the full clean like i have been doing with the DF i want something quick out of the van iv'e ordered a pile brush now which i'l use and the DF only if really bad.

Cheers Phil.

P.S still need a cheap upholstery tool to get me by ANYONE ?

[Simon Gerrard]

got the Brush for my DF but didn't really want to be using my DF on Domestics were i'm not earning enough i may as well do the full clean like i have been doing with the DF i want something quick out of the van iv'e ordered a pile brush now which i'l use and the DF only if really bad.
Cheers Phil.
P.S still need a cheap upholstery tool to get me by ANYONE ?

Phil,
You're missing a trick, use your DF machine for agitation, don't think of the hassle, think of how it looks to the customer, forget the fact that it is a DF machine, that's irrelevant, but sell your service as a 'deeper clean,' something unique to you and stand out from the crowd, not in it!

Simon

[wynne jones]

got the Brush for my DF but didn't really want to be using my DF on Domestics were i'm not earning enough i may as well do the full clean like i have been doing with the DF i want something quick out of the van iv'e ordered a pile brush now which i'l use and the DF only if really bad.
Cheers Phil.
P.S still need a cheap upholstery tool to get me by ANYONE ?

Phil,
You're missing a trick, use your DF machine for agitation, don't think of the hassle, think of how it looks to the customer, forget the fact that it is a DF machine, that's irrelevant, but sell your service as a 'deeper clean,' something unique to you and stand out from the crowd, not in it!

Simon

Deeper Clean, I like that idea! 

[garry22]

Phil, the agitation will be quicker (and far more effective) if you use your DF machine.

[greg2040]

Hi Phil

I have a carpet brush, a grandi-groomer and a prochem upholstry tool with hose which I would be happy to sell. I brought all of them second hand and havent used them so they are just taking up room on the van.

If you want more info then let me know your email address and I will send you some photos.

Thanks
Greg

[*Hector*]

Phil,
You're missing a trick, use your DF machine for agitation, don't think of the hassle, think of how it looks to the customer, forget the fact that it is a DF machine, that's irrelevant, but sell your service as a 'deeper clean,' something unique to you and stand out from the crowd, not in it!

Simon

Simon ...................... he had that with DF and LM.... now with HWE he is just one of thousands..