[Spruce]

I still can't get my head around this fuse explanation.

I think I will order some inline fuses, join 2 of them together in parallel and then join those 2 to a single fuse. If I put a 10 amp fuse in each 'parellel' wired fuse holder and a 15 amp in the last fuse holder.

If what Ian is saying is true then the 15 amp fuse should blow if I short it out - am I right?

[R.C Property]

I still can't get my head around this fuse explanation.

I think I will order some inline fuses, join 2 of them together in parallel and then join those 2 to a single fuse. If I put a 10 amp fuse in each 'parellel' wired fuse holder and a 15 amp in the last fuse holder.

If what Ian is saying is true then the 15 amp fuse should blow if I short it out - am I right?

took me a while to get it,

if you have 2 of the same fuses next to each other with the same wire length then the current will be shared between them so if you put a 10amp charge up the wires then 5amps will be going up each wire,

or putting it in another way, one pump 2 hoses! same amount of water flowing in both but just less and slower.

[Spruce]

I still can't get my head around this fuse explanation.

I think I will order some inline fuses, join 2 of them together in parallel and then join those 2 to a single fuse. If I put a 10 amp fuse in each 'parellel' wired fuse holder and a 15 amp in the last fuse holder.

If what Ian is saying is true then the 15 amp fuse should blow if I short it out - am I right?

took me a while to get it,

if you have 2 of the same fuses next to each other with the same wire length then the current will be shared between them so if you put a 10amp charge up the wires then 5amps will be going up each wire,

or putting it in another way, one pump 2 hoses! same amount of water flowing in both but just less and slower.

 

The first thing I also thought of was that cleaner who recently though that if he put 2 pumps in series he would get twice the flow or was it twice the pressure.

I can't see why anybody would even dream about putting two seperate fuses together in parallel in the circuit to his controller from the battery. IMHO that would take a fair amount of skill to do that. That level of skill would also override that action.

[R.C Property]

I still can't get my head around this fuse explanation.

I think I will order some inline fuses, join 2 of them together in parallel and then join those 2 to a single fuse. If I put a 10 amp fuse in each 'parellel' wired fuse holder and a 15 amp in the last fuse holder.

If what Ian is saying is true then the 15 amp fuse should blow if I short it out - am I right?

took me a while to get it,

if you have 2 of the same fuses next to each other with the same wire length then the current will be shared between them so if you put a 10amp charge up the wires then 5amps will be going up each wire,

or putting it in another way, one pump 2 hoses! same amount of water flowing in both but just less and slower.

 

The first thing I also thought of was that cleaner who recently though that if he put 2 pumps in series he would get twice the flow or was it twice the pressure.

I can't see why anybody would even dream about putting two seperate fuses together in parallel in the circuit to his controller from the battery. IMHO that would take a fair amount of skill to do that. That level of skill would also override that action.

oh yer i can remember that,

yer it is a bit more of a technical way of doing it, but in the right situation im sure it is better, but with the controllers and pumps simple is better!

[Ian Sheppard]

Ian,

BTW while we are on the subject of these controllers i want to mount mine on a plate next to tank by screwing it on. No mounting screws came with it or anything but there is 2 small holes at the rear. Do you have to open the unit to mount it? I don't want it to invalidate the warranty.

It is a cleaning warehouse one however i believe spring just produce these on there behalf..

Dave

Dave to mount the control as described you will need to remove the front panel. The for screws are 1/4 turn and are spring loaded. turn the head and it will pop up. pull the tails through the gromit to give you space to reach the to mounting holes on the back of the box.

Pop the PCB and face plate back on then turn the 1/4 screws. I would suggest that the control is disconnected from the battery when you do this.

Also with the charger you will need to fit a fuse into each life between the Leisure battery (Red cable) and in the orange cable between the Vehicle battery and control.

The charger PCB is rated to a 10 amp Maximum so it is supplied with 10 amp fuses

[dave0123]

Dave to mount the control as described you will need to remove the front panel. The for screws are 1/4 turn and are spring loaded. turn the head and it will pop up. pull the tails through the gromit to give you space to reach the to mounting holes on the back of the box.

Pop the PCB and face plate back on then turn the 1/4 screws. I would suggest that the control is disconnected from the battery when you do this.

Also with the charger you will need to fit a fuse into each life between the Leisure battery (Red cable) and in the orange cable between the Vehicle battery and control.

The charger PCB is rated to a 10 amp Maximum so it is supplied with 10 amp fuses

Thanks Ian,

Just one last question... it says to wire it through the pressure switch? what does that actually mean. Ive only ever used veristream before and that was an old one and that used to say disconnect the pressure switch. Am using it with a shurflo pump.


Thanks

[Ian Sheppard]

Dave to mount the control as described you will need to remove the front panel. The for screws are 1/4 turn and are spring loaded. turn the head and it will pop up. pull the tails through the gromit to give you space to reach the to mounting holes on the back of the box.

Pop the PCB and face plate back on then turn the 1/4 screws. I would suggest that the control is disconnected from the battery when you do this.

Also with the charger you will need to fit a fuse into each life between the Leisure battery (Red cable) and in the orange cable between the Vehicle battery and control.

The charger PCB is rated to a 10 amp Maximum so it is supplied with 10 amp fuses

Thanks Ian,

Just one last question... it says to wire it through the pressure switch? what does that actually mean. Ive only ever used veristream before and that was an old one and that used to say disconnect the pressure switch. Am using it with a shurflo pump.


Thanks

Dave have a look at this image
 http://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/100-psi-shurflo-12v-water-delivery-pump-5lmin-908-p.asp
The two red wires run the length of the pump connected the pressure switch is in line. With the Varistream you would have disconnected these.

Our control is designed to manage the pressure switch in a different way and we recommend it is connected.

Hope this helps

[dave0123]

thanks very much ian,

I will leave it as it is then.


Dave

[dave0123]

Hi Ian,

If you manage to see this, i have wired all this up yesterday i have the one with a charger built in and its coming chg on the display when the engine is running which is great as  i wanted to make sure it this was working before anything else.

haven't had time to do anything else yet so i am going to calibrate it tomorrow i have watched the auto cal video online it says connect your water fed pole up. Im using 60 meters of 6mm microbore hose is  it best to fully extend the hose out 60 meters as well? before auto calibrating the controller.

[Spruce]

Hi Ian,

If you manage to see this, i have wired all this up yesterday i have the one with a charger built in and its coming chg on the display when the engine is running which is great as  i wanted to make sure it this was working before anything else.

haven't had time to do anything else yet so i am going to calibrate it tomorrow i have watched the auto cal video online it says connect your water fed pole up. Im using 60 meters of 6mm microbore hose is  it best to fully extend the hose out 60 meters as well? before auto calibrating the controller.

Personally, I would calibrate it with the hose fully wound on the reel. It needs a little more pressure this way and its not always you pull all your hose out off the reel.

[Ian Sheppard]

Hi Ian,

If you manage to see this, i have wired all this up yesterday i have the one with a charger built in and its coming chg on the display when the engine is running which is great as  i wanted to make sure it this was working before anything else.

haven't had time to do anything else yet so i am going to calibrate it tomorrow i have watched the auto cal video online it says connect your water fed pole up. Im using 60 meters of 6mm microbore hose is  it best to fully extend the hose out 60 meters as well? before auto calibrating the controller.

Personally, I would calibrate it with the hose fully wound on the reel. It needs a little more pressure this way and its not always you pull all your hose out off the reel.

To a point Spruce is right there is no need to pull all the hose off the reel when running the auto cal. I would suggest that you attach your longest pole and take some hose of the reel this is to allow a little expansion in the hose wall.

So why calibrate the control to a pump?

What we are doing is telling the control what the maximum pressure the system normally operates at. To get a good flow at the brush head the system is probably running between 40 - 70 PSI. So the control knows that the normal max level is 70 PSI. When a user stops the water flow the pump will attempt to push against the restriction increasing the pressure above 70 PSI the pump see,s this sudden rise and stops the pump. This is what we refer to as DEAD END.

During this DE (flow stopped period) the controller periodically retests the pressure at the pump. When the restriction is removed the pressure falls back below the 70PSI maximum and the control restarts the pump at the preset flow. Hence the need to set the calibration to the longest pole which requires the greater pressure.
The control is designed to stop the pump before the pump pressure switch activates where the water flow has been stopped.

I feel there is a need to give a little more detail in some areas as understanding why what where when and how could be very useful.

Ian

[dave0123]

Thanks ian and spruce

I am going to have a good play with it again tomorrow.