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Hilton

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2013, 11:15:21 pm »
The NCCA is not for the benefit of the general public but for the benefit of Carpet Cleaners , for this reason the public do not recognise them or their members they do not even get recognition from the BBC when carrying out an investigation in to cowboy operators..you would have thought that as the.body that represents the carpet cleaning industry they would have been asked for their input but no nothing....
That was the time I realised they were an organisation not worth joining.

creighton foyle

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2013, 12:39:32 pm »
NCCA - democratically elected professional committee, well organised, run by mature experienced industry professional's.

I was a member some years ago, I may re-join this year depending if / how TACCA turns out / changes its set up. I'm not holding my breath on that one though  ::)roll 

and remind me when exactly was the last general election (to include all members) held to vote on the current crop of directors, how many of them were voted on by the members and how many were just co-opted on by their mates already on the board ?

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2013, 12:46:21 pm »
NCCA - democratically elected professional committee, well organised, run by mature experienced industry professional's.

I was a member some years ago, I may re-join this year depending if / how TACCA turns out / changes its set up. I'm not holding my breath on that one though  ::)roll 

and remind me when exactly was the last general election (to include all members) held to vote on the current crop of directors, how many of them were voted on by the members and how many were just co-opted on by their mates already on the board ?

I don't know but I can ring them and ask...

creighton foyle

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2013, 04:56:17 pm »
i would be interested in the answer so give it a go and see what they say as i am not sure its as democratic as they would like us to think it is.

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2013, 05:23:51 pm »

I'll call them tom now as I've just got back in and will report back on here...

Craigp

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2013, 05:52:44 pm »
I have as a member been asked Creighton, it was about two years ago.

All members were invited to attend the general meeting to vote.

I have no problem with the NCCA I think they do a good job.

One benefit of TACCA however is that it could have a motivating effect on pushing them to do more.

I'm a member of both.


On the other thread I said TACCA needs to push ahead with its original plan, the reason I said that was because if it does not it will be guilty of the very thing it criticised NCCA for.


The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2013, 06:17:27 pm »

On the other thread I said TACCA needs to push ahead with its original plan, the reason I said that was because if it does not it will be guilty of the very thing it criticised NCCA for.



Do enlighten me please? There is a plan?

Craigp

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2013, 06:29:35 pm »
National advertising.

Its criticism of NCCA was that NCCA did not get it members work.

NCCAs reply to this is that has never been its objective.

The idea of TACCA was national advertising to get its members work.



creighton foyle

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2013, 06:31:08 pm »

On the other thread I said TACCA needs to push ahead with its original plan, the reason I said that was because if it does not it will be guilty of the very thing it criticised NCCA for.


Now look what you've done?, you've started him off again!. ;D
Do enlighten me please? There is a plan?

wynne jones

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2013, 06:35:39 pm »
Wasnt the original plan paid national TV advertising? I really do hope the original plan has been changed. It's a very bad idea.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Craigp

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2013, 06:35:46 pm »
lol, whoops ;D ;D ;D

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2013, 10:11:52 pm »
National advertising.


The idea of TACCA was national advertising to get its members work.





 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Don't make me laugh!!!

What with, peanuts!!!!

So that's Mr West's grand plan, get rich with the surplus revenue from the advertising  8)




AshWhite

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2013, 10:56:49 pm »
I've had 2 jobs that came via TACCA site (confirmed, maybe more which couldn't be confirmed).
Carpet Cleaning http://www.floors2show.co.uk
Google Adwords Management http://www.pagecrest.co.uk

Simon@arenaclean

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2013, 11:07:20 pm »
Quote
       

Don't make me laugh!!!

What with, peanuts!!!!

So that's Mr West's grand plan, get rich with the surplus revenue from the advertising 

Regardless of your opinion of the aims or the structure of TACCA and it's membership, directly accusing either a member or Mr West of cheating or fraud is a personal attack and completely out of order.

Simon
TACCA Member

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2013, 11:59:34 pm »
Quote
       

Don't make me laugh!!!

What with, peanuts!!!!

So that's Mr West's grand plan, get rich with the surplus revenue from the advertising 

Regardless of your opinion of the aims or the structure of TACCA and it's membership, directly accusing either a member or Mr West of cheating or fraud is a personal attack and completely out of order.

Simon
TACCA Member

Well, you'll never know cos there's no constitution so one can do with what one likes  ::)roll

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #55 on: February 26, 2013, 12:01:18 am »
or
accountability

Simon@arenaclean

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #56 on: February 26, 2013, 12:24:10 am »
Still think a personal accusation was out of order. Otherwise TACCA Welcomes any feedback given by members, potential members (who have been identified) or members of the public (again who show a right to reply other than on this forum), we strive to be receptive  to all ideas or suggestions, (and have been doing by other means, ie email, phone and social media) We offer an open  invitation (via tickets of course) to visit our open training day where any questions can be openly discussed.

The TACCA Scrutineer

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2013, 12:40:47 am »
Still think a personal accusation was out of order. Otherwise TACCA Welcomes any feedback given by members, potential members (who have been identified) or members of the public (again who show a right to reply other than on this forum), we strive to be receptive  to all ideas or suggestions, (and have been doing by other means, ie email, phone and social media) We offer an open  invitation (via tickets of course) to visit our open training day where any questions can be openly discussed.

This is now the 'stock' answer given to everything, as discussed on the TACCA forum, I like it  ;D

Fudge over the issues....


Ian Gourlay

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #59 on: February 26, 2013, 10:41:13 am »
National advertising.

Its criticism of NCCA was that NCCA did not get it members work.

NCCAs reply to this is that has never been its objective.

The idea of TACCA was national advertising to get its members work.