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Paul Moss

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NCCA your thoughts
« on: February 23, 2013, 08:01:51 pm »
Just for Andrew  :-*

joe brown

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 08:06:00 pm »
Badly dressed ,stale ,unheard of ,bunch of dinosaurs.

Billy Russell

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Paul Moss

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 08:08:03 pm »
He looked in the mirror  :D

heritagecleaning

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 08:08:45 pm »
From what I remember they run a 2 day course on setting fire to small bits of carpet, followed by a test everyone seems to pass. My memory has been known to fail me though.


joe brown

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 08:10:12 pm »
I was a member for 2 years over a decade ago. one job in two years,was the return on the spend. Probably less than putting a poster in a local shop/church. No one has heard of them and a 6 yr old could pass the exam.Pointless.

Billy Russell

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 08:13:00 pm »
So how do you know their all still like that?

Paul Moss

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2013, 08:13:27 pm »
Ive got a car valeters by me that are Cr ap they have crAP equipment but they are NCCA trainned and  exam passed  ;D

Some times you have to laugh.

joe brown

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 08:17:22 pm »
Can you imagine there christmas do?

Phil @ Extreme Clean

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2013, 08:19:45 pm »
What Customer gives a flying f**k whether your ncca or tacca they only want a clean carpet at a good price there not gonna die by risking who they use were not gas fitters  who need to be corgy registered or gas safe approved only rarely and very rarely will THE CARPET DIE  :)

Phil.

www.dryerfusion.co.uk
Extreme Clean
Carpets to DRY For!!!!!

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joe brown

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2013, 08:22:45 pm »
Well said Phil ,its hardly rocket science is it. You suck out the dirt.,thats it. 1 hour maximum to learn.the hardest part is setting up the machine,the second hardest is using a pump up sprayer.

ian

Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2013, 08:31:34 pm »
13 years I've been in this industry and only ONCE have I been asked by a potential customer 'Was I NCCA?' Ok granted it's one more than TACCA but one of them has been around for donkeys years.
Sorry but when entry is purely on doing a 'Can't fail exam' then I'm not interested. I did contact them and say I was willing to pay to do the exam but not the course and was told I couldn't do that. I said I'm not willing to pay to do a 2 day introduction course to carpet cleaning and pay for the privilage....so that was the end of that.
I also know an NCCA member who really hasn't got a clue, but also advertises his NCCA qual to deal with leathers, when he doesn't even know the difference between analine and pigmented.
Says it all really

Simon Moat

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2013, 08:35:46 pm »
What Customer gives a flying f**k whether your ncca or tacca they only want a clean carpet at a good price there not gonna die by risking who they use were not gas fitters  who need to be corgy registered or gas safe approved only rarely and very rarely will THE CARPET DIE  :)

Phil.

www.dryerfusion.co.uk

Well said Phil, all this cobblers is getting a little bit sectarian for me, I've never even considered being a member of any organisation/association in this industry, and when I see drivel thats been spouted I'm very happy with that fact.

ian de-lacey

Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2013, 08:37:20 pm »
Yeah, its a bit like being in the national association of people that can walk in a straight line. 99.9% of people dont need a sticker or certificate to show they can do it.

regards

Ian

Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2013, 08:40:57 pm »
Your right Paul Moss, some ncca members work for peanuts as do alot of tacca members - I think tacca and the ncca should amalgamate and become one - nacca (not approved & cant clean anything)    ;) 

Its got a good ring to it dont you think  :D

If I had the spare time to start NACCA I would - but I'm far too busy earning money  :P

Maybe the leather king Neil should start NACCA - he's the next Richard Branson and we all know he could pass the ncca exam - because hes told us all that many times (yawn) - he knows the difference between analine and pigmented leathers  ;D ;D hooray   :P   

wynne jones

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2013, 10:12:59 pm »
I'm not a big fan of the NCCA, but I've never understood the disgruntlement that a member was never passed jobs. The people I know who think it is worth it, mercilessly exploit it in their marketing and make sure people 'know' that anyone who isnt in it are cowboys.

Ironically one of them is a rag whirler with a vax wet vac for spotting.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

nathanjd

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2013, 10:47:37 pm »
13 years I've been in this industry and only ONCE have I been asked by a potential customer 'Was I NCCA?' Ok granted it's one more than TACCA but one of them has been around for donkeys years.
Sorry but when entry is purely on doing a 'Can't fail exam' then I'm not interested. I did contact them and say I was willing to pay to do the exam but not the course and was told I couldn't do that. I said I'm not willing to pay to do a 2 day introduction course to carpet cleaning and pay for the privilage....so that was the end of that.
I also know an NCCA member who really hasn't got a clue, but also advertises his NCCA qual to deal with leathers, when he doesn't even know the difference between analine and pigmented.
Says it all really

In the words of alan partridge: 'Lovely Stuff!'
When i worked for an NCCA company no-one ever knew what it was. They certainly never heard of it. We had to tell them how 'important' it was that we were a member for them to undertsand what it was. Not worth the rediculous membership fee. TACCA is great because it is doing what it should be. Now that ive been on my own in business for 8 years and one of TACCA's members from the start i really appreciate it. And last week i had a job from someone who heard that you need TACCA registered cleaner. As they say on facebook....Like!

John Kelly

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2013, 01:05:05 am »
The NCCA is a trade association. Every industry has them. They are normally started by a bunch of operators in that industry who get together with the intention of increasing professionalism in said industry and to try and bring benefits to its members.
TACCA is exactly the same. Both are run by dedicated people who give a lot of their own time for little reward. You don't have to join either as it is not compulsary. People do join and do so because they believe it can benefit them personally and maybe they like being part of a collective group. Neither deserve to be slagged off.
If you don't want to join, don't join, but they don't deserve the vitriolic bashing some people give both organisations.
Now if you were a member of the BDMA where insurance companies insist you are a member before they'll give you work you would have something to carp about.

Ian Gourlay

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Re: NCCA your thoughts
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2013, 07:23:13 am »
A lot of people appear to remane members of the NCCA.