[Dennis]

No one likes a smart arse

I like Pippa Middleton's. 

[*Hector*]

But to be fair Dennis....................

You live in a part of the country where 6 toes on each foot is almost as obligatory as marrying your uncles cousins sister..

 

[Billy Russell]

But to be fair Dennis....................

You live in a part of the country where 6 toes on each foot is almost as obligatory as marrying your uncles cousins sister..

 

 

[Dennis]

But to be fair Dennis....................

You live in a part of the country where 6 toes on each foot is almost as obligatory as marrying your uncles cousins sister..

 

True 

Beneath Martham church tower there is a gravestone with a surprising inscription. It was written by a Christopher Burraway to commemorate his wife Alice and reads: 'in this life my sister, my mistress, my mother and my wife'. Burraway, who was the illegitimate child of an incestuous union, returned to Martham later in life and unknowingly married his mother/sister. The connection only came to light after an identifying mole was discovered.

http://www.literarynorfolk.co.uk/martham.htm

[Paul Moss]

Ok im bored with this now, no body is biting any more 

im starting a new thread

[Mike Halliday]

Does TACCA. Exist outside of this forum?

Does it have its own online  presence ? As I'm not a member the only contact I have with TACCA  is what I read on here, and if I'm truthful it does not come across in a professional light,  most of the topics start to follow the same theme of a few member sharing daft jokes, or praise for Derek having the gumption to give it a go which seams to be the stock  response for any criticism of TACCA

Do you think if the founding members of the Ncca where involved in a discussion they would start postings pictures of them selves with Hitler  mustaches

There is a fundamental problem with these organisation and its some of the members it attracts, I.m not being critical of TACCA the same went for 'CLEAN' I went to the CCDO meeting and the first thing I saw when I arrived at the hotel was a founding member rolling over the floor ( drunk?) are these the people we want represent our industry

NCCA might be run by old fogeys but they are professional old fogeys who always maintain a  professional attitude....if it came to who I would choose to represent our industry these old fogeys would  be my first choice

[L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner]

Excellent post Mike,excellent.

Lewis  Doubtfire.

P.S.

Only my opinion,but I agree with one of the orginal
Founders of the NCCA,can`t name of course for
Ethical reasons but he said`There can be only one
NCCA,
When all said and done for right wrong good bad or
Indifferent they are the official governing body.

[derek west]

yes mike, it more than exists outside of this forum.

we have 240 members and 640 businesses registered to our newsletter

i would say out of all that, about 40 post on here.

http://www.tacca.co.uk/find-a-cleaner/

[Mike Halliday]

like i said derek i only see what I see on here and my opionion is based on that, can you get the newsletter without being a member?

do the 240 members communicate... through Facebook etc

[AshWhite]

Mike, there's a facebook page and a forum on the tacca website.

[Simon Gerrard]

Mike,
I think the point you are missing, conveniently perhaps, is that TACCA was founded on the back of a lot of dissatisfaction with the ncca, which everyone was prepared to bitch about but weren't prepared to do anything about it. In fact, if i remember correctly, it started almost as a joke which Derek singlehandedly took forward, built a website and all the SEO to go with it, got suppliers involved and without asking for a penny invited members, many of whom are getting work on a regular basis through the TACCA site, for free.

So a few of us share the odd joke on here, is that unprofessional, or just a bit of banter, which the public do not see? If you're so averse to a bit of humour on here then perhaps TACCA members should leave CiU and use the TACCA forum instead?

Here's a link to the TACCA website:
www.tacca.co.uk
And tell us what is unprofessional about that - bearing in mind that is what the public see?
I'm also intrigued to know what you mean by, 'There is a fundamental problem with these organisation and its some of the members it attracts.'
Simon

[Jamie Pearson]

Does the Professional Cleaners Association still exist?

I have a couple of Bane Clean users as customers who still fly the flag.

[wynne jones]

Mike may have a bit of a point but in reality if you google tacca this forum is nowhere. But if you google your name area your cleanitup up post may well be seen only a few pages in if a customer or potential customer wants to research you.

[derek west]

like i said derek i only see what I see on here and my opionion is based on that, can you get the newsletter without being a member?

do the 240 members communicate... through Facebook etc

at the moment its just members that get the newsletter. all though they are few and far between, and a bit boring at present. the newsletter not the members     i am looking at an online magazine, similar to the one from american TM forum,  had a few guys interested in writing for us, (sorry if i've not replied to you yet, its on my todo list) was gonna ask you mike if you fancied doing something and still will, little bit of negativity wouldn't put me off and i like reading your blog posts so worth a punt in asking. hey! ya don't ask, ya never know.
and anyone else who fancies themselves as a budding columnist. and not just work related, health and fitness, music, cars bikes, anything really. just trying to find someone who can put it all together on the cheap.

was gonna call it the TACCA bi monthly but with all this gay talk from billy and paul, might have to rename it the TACCA bi sexual ohhhhh come on!!!, lighten up will ya FFS.

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

Headline news

Carpet cleaner drunk in a pub on a friday night - shock horror !

Most carpet cleaner days out start with a boozy night, followed by a day of education/meeting suppliers/demonstrations, followed by another boozy night - nothing changes.

We're carpet cleaners, not MP's or royalty - we have no need for keeping up appearances among ourselves.

[Griffus]

Organising anything takes time and effort.

I say well done to Derek for what he's achieved so far.

Whatever comes of this you can't fault his effort and belief.

I'm a mere passenger and intend to remain as such.

There do seem to be a number of people with strong opinions. Some appear to put them across in a fairly articulate way. They are however, making a lot of noise in the wrong place and thus I suspect have personal agenda's, and / or misplaced and large ego's.

Easy to sit behind a keyboard and criticise, not so to stand up and be counted.

Anyone serious, then just contact Derek privately and take it from there.

[Max Campbell]

Now this thread seems to be getting on a more even keel, I'll come out from lurking & post...

I joined TACCA because it promised to do more in the way of promoting to the general public than NCCA (of which we are members, too). Since joining, the biggest benefit has been the meet-ups, and I'm really looking forward to the one in March - I reckon we learnt more really useful stuff there than in all the other training days I've been to, and we were able to give the benefit of our own experience (we have been doing it since 1993).

I share a little reservation about the structure of the organisation, and I don't think Andrew's posts, originally at least, were outrageous, but we'll see how it works out - one day it will probably have to change. In the meantime, we're benefiting from the meet-ups, there's some hope that it will promote good standards in the business, and communicate with potential customers, so we're sticking with it.

[John Kelly]

Every organisation big and small including corporate business have issues with people getting ped at meetings and events. Its called life and its what happens.

[Mike Halliday]

lots of points to answer....

to say that the behaviour of members on here in of no consequence as the public don't see it is I think flawed, are you saying that member alter their fundamental behaviour on CIU as I believe people tend to be as the seam, if they appear intelligent* on here they tend to be intelligent* in person

* I use the word 'intelligent' only as a example you could replace it with racist, sexist  planet hugging etc..etc  the point is people are as they seam.

carpet cleaners getting drunk on a friday night... no problem with that but do you think at a get together where you are putting your self forward as a potential representative of our industry and trying to recruit members it is sensible?.

[Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)]

I think you're concerns are unnecessary in this instance Mike.

Firstly, the incident in question happened 3 years ago and neither CCDO or CLEAN exist anymore.

Secondly, Derek doesn't drink