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BVC

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Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« on: February 16, 2013, 01:17:55 pm »
Would appreciate your opinions.

Im Sick of paying out for repairs in many areas. Van/cars/pressure washers/laptops. I am now firmly in the buy used and chuck it away when it breaks brigade.

So with a nifty sidestep of the ....you get what you pay for...... And the buy cheap buy twice arguments, which btw I appreciate do make sense, but I am no longer willing to pay miserable gits that charge £50 to look at you and then another £150 to maybe fix your problem.

So my question is this. I'm running a modello inter pump 200 bar 15ltr pm with a petrol Honda gx390 (yep wish I was diesel, but beggars can't be choosers!!) would like to go hot, so what hot box could do the job but be disposable if it broke. Alternatively would you buy better quality? For example I drive an old land rover that is worth only a bit less as scrap. Are there any hot boxes that hold their value?

Btw the gx390 is in the garage
I actually use a little Honda 6.5 hp petrol which I smash for hours on end and i cant believe it just keeps going would a really cheap hotbox be better with this?

Regards bvc.



 

Matt Gibson

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2013, 01:22:58 pm »
A hot box is a hotbox, whatever way you look at it. even a lower end one will set you back £600 - £700. If your not using it all the time and look after it it should last you a long time and not drop its value too much. what are you cleaning that you NEED to go hot?

Rob_Mac

Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 02:10:44 pm »
BVC

One on Ebay now

Item number 251225717672

Lot of activity on it so it should go for a bit more but a good make

Rob ;D

chris scott

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2013, 02:53:03 pm »
Thats quite an expensive one to start with....300bar Aquila.
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BVC

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2013, 03:42:16 pm »
Ha ha. The wonders of eBay ;D

Been up to Peterborough and had this guys Honda, tank and reel, the one on the wacking great skid!

Nice bit off kit, if you read my previous posts you can have a chuckle at my last experience with a gx390!

I've seen this burner in the metal so to speak, real heavy piece of kit and very very nearly pulled the trigger. the guy was pretty stand up and easily forth coming with a buy it now price. Tried to do a deal on the lot but a little rich for me at the moment.

No offence to anyone bidding but Its a cracker and he's up for a deal, if you know what your doing surely its a steal???

As far as needing hot. I don't, but I'm always on the lookout for a bargain and if the chance of going hot came along I would like to know what to look out for.

Regards brad.




BVC

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2013, 03:46:33 pm »
A hot box is a hotbox, whatever way you look at it.

Had a feeling this was the case. I'm sure in the right pocket a couple of hundred quid would do the trick though?

Second hand low end seems like the way to go for me.

Cheers brad.

Ashley Brothwood

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 10:51:27 pm »
Does anyone know the amount of wattage it would take to power a boiler unit. I can't find it anywhere and want to know if its best to run one off an inverter and 12v battery or have a small generator

chris scott

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 06:33:58 am »
"About" 300watts.
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Ashley Brothwood

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2013, 08:16:34 am »
Thanks ye I think ill run it off a genny as if it runs for long periods of time at 300ish watt then the battery may see a lot of drain

Neil Jones

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 09:18:15 am »
Totally off track BVC but I've got the chance to buy the Gx390 the same as you have. Reckon I could get it for £800 with 20 m hose in two 10m lengths and two lances, long and short with turbo nozzle. Excellent condition. Is it worth the money? I know you can get them for £1271 all in new.

chris scott

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 09:23:33 am »
Totally off track BVC but I've got the chance to buy the Gx390 the same as you have. Reckon I could get it for £800 with 20 m hose in two 10m lengths and two lances, long and short with turbo nozzle. Excellent condition. Is it worth the money? I know you can get them for £1271 all in new.
Make sure it has a gearbox if you are working it hard. There are two "common" types of pumps for the Gx390 3600psi no gearbox ,3000psi with gearbox. I suspect at £1271 incl it will be the no gearbox...but i am only guessing.
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Neil Jones

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2013, 05:48:37 pm »
Cheers for the reply Chris, by working it hard what do you mean? Ill be running it for a day or half day here and there, not every day by any means, maybe twice a week.

Neil Jones

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2013, 05:51:10 pm »
It's 3000 psi with reduction gear box. You reckon that's a good buy for all that then?

chris scott

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2013, 06:00:05 pm »
Sorry for the wrong guess it was just you stating 13hp. "Usually " the Gx 340 11hp is  fitted to the 300opsi gearbox model.
 Things to check are that it is a genuine Honda, it is an interpump or similar. Do you have picture or ebay item number? The spec you have suggested it is will be fine for your use...we use these machines day in day out .Service it regularly and it will last .
Apicture would help as this is guess work.
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Neil Jones

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2013, 08:15:48 pm »
I didn't explain myself properly, you are right Chris, the one I saw online for £1271 had no gearbox, the one i'm buying does have a gear box, i'm pretty much getting it half price. I do have a honda gx390 generator so I can work my way around these and have a guy who does my services. It was the pump i'm concerned with more, I do maintain anything I own so no problems in that sense.
Anything in particular I should look for to be sure its genuine? He has assured me he has the documents still and maybe the receipt so that is a bonus. It's not an ebay item and photos are on my phone, its through a mate. Going in the morning to have a look/buy.

Cheers for your help.

chris scott

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2013, 10:16:39 pm »
Under the "on" "off" switch  (i think) cast in the crankase it should have GX340/390. Interpump should be a WS201/202.
Connect to water and start the engine check for blue/white smoke.(The engine should start easily 3/4 pulls) There should be no smoke although a "hint" of blue/white/black is acceptable but it should only just be visable for a minute. New engine £550/700
Stop the engine .Pull out the dipstick (s) engine should be "see through" brown/gold. Possibly black/brown if it needs changing.
Gear box oil should be brown  any sign of grey metallic should be viewed as suspect . A new gearbox is approx £170
Pump oil should be clean . Any white/grey in the oil would indicate suspect seals. Maybe a couple of hundred quid to sort out or a new pump approx £400.
Unloaders are about £50/60 . They pack in with no indication at all perhaps from weeping a little water initially.
Obviously it should build pressure and free from water oil leaks.
 
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Neil Jones

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Re: Run of the mill hot box. How much.
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2013, 10:26:25 pm »
Good man Chris, i'll let you know how I get on.