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Darranvps

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 07:05:05 am »
Get the Zeta

We just ordered one at 23 ltr & 250 BARand are going to try the Aquila Hot box we just bought on e-bay - ££££Ouch!


 personally i would of chose a diesel model as it would be a bit less thirsty and also no chance of getting fuel mixed up with the diesel that you will be using in the hotbox
I agree - I will phone this morning and change it for the 30 ltr 200 BAR

david washbrook

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 03:17:36 pm »
Had a good chat whith rob McLean thanks rob
Rhinoman where are you getting yours from and are you changing it because I've been told they no longer do a diesel 30ltr ite either a petrol 23ltr @ 250bar, petrol 30ltr @ 200 bar or a diesel 15ltr@ 170 bar

david washbrook

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2013, 05:28:18 pm »
Ok I think I'm narrowing it down
Either a 23ltr @ 250 bar
Or a 30ltr @ 200 bar
I know rob prefers more flow but which is better more flow or more pressure

Mike Halliday

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2013, 06:16:41 pm »
david this might have been covered but how are you feeding the water supply, are you feeding it from a tank?

and what will this machine be used for? why are you looking for such a high flow rate
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Darranvps

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2013, 07:02:27 pm »
David

I'm Struggling to get a diesel one!

MORE FLOW in my opinion is always better.

No good having 300 bar at 9lpm better 200 BAR at 20 - 25 ltr per min

Robs your man - he should know whats best to buy.

I have a few different machines - Kranzle - LASTS FOREVER - you hardly ever see a second hand one!

Dual Pumps seem to be steady away and I have been offered a Zeta 23lpm per min at 250 BAR petrol from a place in Crawley for £2699 + VAT - might find it a bit cheaper somewhere?

david washbrook

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2013, 07:06:19 pm »
Hi mike how are you hope your well, I always use a tank of some sort to supply the water so as long as you have a supply it should keep filling the tank,
I do various types of pressure washing from a couple of biggish commercial jobs down to mrs jones back yard.
Not sure why I want such a high flow but the next 1 I buy will hopefully be the last 1 I buy so I just wanted to get the best I can afford, if you know what I mean

david washbrook

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2013, 07:10:33 pm »
Rhino man I've been offered the same machine from Malcolm smith pressure washers for £2575 + vat or the 30ltr @ 200 bar for £100 less

david washbrook

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2013, 07:29:29 pm »
Rob the Honda washer @ £3000 is inclusive of vat so more or less the same as the zeta 30ltr @200 bar ???

Mike Halliday

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2013, 07:57:32 pm »
I'm doing well dave, are you of to the TACCA day?... might see you there


30lts a min will empty a wheely bin in 10mins you will need a high flow tap to keep up with your work or you will be constantly be stopping

if you are wanting reliability (as this is the last machine you will buy) then a bigger pump and engine will not equal more reliability

a small interpump is as reliable as a big interpump, does a 30hp engine last longer than a 20hp engine? if both are used at their optimum rate then both will give the same lifespan

an engine rated with a higher horsepower than the pump requires will allow the engine to be under less stress,, but you are buying a bigger pump so need a bigger engine.

it just looks like to me that you are spending money needlessly
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Rob_Mac

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2013, 08:41:25 pm »
Mike

I agree with most of that but I would say that the pump is well under what the engine can handle on either the Zeta or the Honda.

The H & M came with a 22LPM pump, on a 24HP engine, the engine powers the water heating coil as well.

I wouldn't say it is overstretched now with a 35LPM pump plus the heat. We allowed 2HP for the water heater coil, on instruction from the service people.

The max for a 24 HP I was told would be a 45LPM pump and I cannot be certain but I think that is what the spec for the Thor is - could be wrong on this one though - been a long day!!

Rob ;D


Rob_Mac

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2013, 08:51:25 pm »
Darren

You wiley bugger!!!

How much did you pay for the Aquila Hotbox?

Rob ;D

david washbrook

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Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2013, 09:05:18 pm »
So which is better 30 ltr @ 200 bar, 23ltr @ 250 bar, 15ltr @ 250 bar, 15ltr@ 200 bar

Rob_Mac

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2013, 09:12:09 pm »
Dave

The obvious would be 30LPM @ 200 bar. You will never need more than 200. None of my machine are above 200 bar.

Why that combination - because if you want two operators you can split it and if you need some extra grunt on one operator you've got it!

Rob ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2013, 09:17:45 pm »
Dave

An afterthought I don't know if the Honda or the Zeta have a flow diverter.

On the Thor there is a great big lever that increases revs and flow, the further you push it the more flow you get. You don't need to constantly run it @ 30LPM but it will always do 200 bar. The bar pressure is always at 200 even when I rinse off the gun.

Rob ;D

Blast Away

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2013, 09:44:21 pm »
Anyone ok about dealing with travellers? I'm not otherwise I'd have this. Rang him the other week before he put it on ebay and he wanted £1000 but I don't trust them. Cash on collection can mean "give me your money, now f**k off and don't come back or we'll set the dogs on ya"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LOMBARDINI-TWIN-CYLINDER-KEY-START-DRAIN-JETTER-JETWASH-/251230238803?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3a7e7d3853

Rob_Mac

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2013, 09:50:00 pm »
Lee

I'm with you on that one, wouldn't take a grand cash to one of their sites. That has got to have been robbed from somewhere because its worth a lot more than that.

Are you busy?

Rob ;D

Blast Away

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2013, 10:08:35 pm »
f***in' hammered mate, 4 weeks booked in, all mostly commercial and a couple of roof cleans. Taking her to Barca in 2 weeks for her birthday for 3 days and the calls coming in are stressing me out when I have to tell them how long they'll have to wait.

What've you got on? You back down south?

Rob_Mac

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2013, 10:19:05 pm »
Just kicked in mate.

Priced shed loads and they are starting to come in. Got my first service work to get the nod with some additional works being discussed on Friday.

Down in Rogers town - Staines.

Make sure when you get her over there you take care of her (like you did the other night) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Got to come up your way on Thursday - somewhere near the Trafford Centre for some drain surveying, just got to meet the client and price up!

If you're about i'll bell you and see if i can get to have a chat!

Rob ;D

Blast Away

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2013, 10:40:17 pm »
Just kicked in mate.

Priced shed loads and they are starting to come in. Got my first service work to get the nod with some additional works being discussed on Friday.

Down in Rogers town - Staines.

Make sure when you get her over there you take care of her (like you did the other night) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Got to come up your way on Thursday - somewhere near the Trafford Centre for some drain surveying, just got to meet the client and price up!

If you're about i'll bell you and see if i can get to have a chat!

Rob ;D

 ;D ;D

We're in the city centre all week on Manchester Central so if you wanna come over down Chester Road give me a shout.

Darranvps

Re: Honda gx 630
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2013, 05:48:47 am »
Rob
£995
More than I would have liked to pay but looking forward to trying it out.