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dave0123

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john guest fittings
« on: February 12, 2013, 08:44:13 pm »
I am getting a tank fitted into van next week then i am doing the rest fitting the pump/controller and di etc in the van.

I going to use john guest push fit fittings .. can you get a 1 inch fitting for the tank? if not what would be the best option for the inital tank outlet socket.
Dave.

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 08:52:45 pm »
i used one of these,

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Compression/Compression+Elbow+Male+22mm+x+1/d20/sd2697/p16197

go to local plumbing place to get one, as these only come in packs of 10


then one of these to reduce down to 15mm pushfit

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/John+Guest+Speedfit/Reducer+22mm+x+15mm/d20/sd3307/p54466

Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 08:53:35 pm »
1 inch to 3/4 reducer then 3/4 to 1/2 reducer then 1/2 male JG

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VyTIuY49m0Y

I use 1/2 pipe and fittings Richard uses 15mm fittings.

Mine were from Gardiners

dave0123

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 09:08:30 pm »
Quote
i used one of these,

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Compression/Compression+Elbow+Male+22mm+x+1/d20/sd2697/p16197

go to local plumbing place to get one, as these only come in packs of 10


then one of these to reduce down to 15mm pushfit

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/John+Guest+Speedfit/Reducer+22mm+x+15mm/d20/sd3307/p54466

Doesnt look like theres much thread on that copper one richard.
Dave.

dave0123

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 09:10:11 pm »
Quote
1 inch to 3/4 reducer then 3/4 to 1/2 reducer then 1/2 male JG

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VyTIuY49m0Y

I use 1/2 pipe and fittings Richard uses 15mm fittings.

Mine were from Gardiners

Hi sunshine i seen your video the other week which made me choose as i dont get any leaks on my static ro with john guest.. what 1inch fitting to 3/4 did you use?  a reducing bush?
Dave.

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 09:13:30 pm »
Quote
i used one of these,

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/Compression/Compression+Elbow+Male+22mm+x+1/d20/sd2697/p16197

go to local plumbing place to get one, as these only come in packs of 10


then one of these to reduce down to 15mm pushfit

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Plumbing/John+Guest+Speedfit/Reducer+22mm+x+15mm/d20/sd3307/p54466

Doesnt look like theres much thread on that copper one richard.

there is plenty of thread on them, we use them in domestic plumbing of hot water cylinders and tanks etc.

Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 07:31:38 am »
Quote
1 inch to 3/4 reducer then 3/4 to 1/2 reducer then 1/2 male JG

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VyTIuY49m0Y

I use 1/2 pipe and fittings Richard uses 15mm fittings.

Mine were from Gardiners

Hi sunshine i seen your video the other week which made me choose as i dont get any leaks on my static ro with john guest.. what 1inch fitting to 3/4 did you use?  a reducing bush?

It's a simple reducer like the ones you get with Hoseloc.

Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 07:35:21 am »
http://gardens.j4shopfront.co.uk/Claber-1-Inch-Male-34-Inch-Female-Reducer_i42408

Its not this but this would.work. Then regular reducer 5hen JG fitting

Alex Gardiner

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 07:44:29 am »

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2013, 07:58:33 am »
when putting plastic fittings into the brass thread of the tank make sure you use some ptfe tape and make sure you dont cross thread or over tighten them, as plastic will thread or crack easily causing leaks.

being a plumber, one other reason not to use plastic is incase you drop something on it it will break and crack off, leaving you with a van full of water and an empty tank, plastic over time wears and can crack as brass fittings wont. not ideal if you use warm water in the tank as this will cause the plastic to expand and contract which can also lead to leaks.

traps7

Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2013, 08:06:42 am »
But if you use brass and drop something on it you're more likely to split the tank than the fitting.

Fittings are cheaper to replace. I'd go with plastic in this particular case.

Personally I use one of these:

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/nylon-male-screw-to-1-2-inch-barb-elbows.html

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2013, 08:10:03 am »
But if you use brass and drop something on it you're more likely to split the tank than the fitting.

Fittings are cheaper to replace. I'd go with plastic in this particular case.

not at all,  because there is a brass thread already in the tank and that part of the tank is reinforced, so wont break easily, to break that you will need a very heavy force. all plasitc part are only made from a thin plastic that.

traps7

Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 08:13:20 am »
Fair enough, but it would be best with a tapered thread.

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 08:20:20 am »
Fair enough, but it would be best with a tapered thread.

yes tapered threads are used in some plumbing for high pressure work.

on plastic pipes due to the wedging effect of the tapered thread, extreme care must be used to avoid overtightening the joint. The overstressed female fitting may split days or weeks after initial fitting.

p1w1

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 06:43:03 pm »
could someone let me know if this fitting would be ok to screw onto a shurflow pump like the one in sunshines video. http://www.jtmplumbing.co.uk/john-guest-speedfit-fittings-167/john-guest-speedfit-bent-3244.htm .

Thanks  :)

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 07:15:33 pm »
Yes that will be fine to use, just watch out for cross threading.

dave0123

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 11:31:22 pm »
thanks for the relplys much appreciated.
Dave.

p1w1

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2013, 08:04:00 am »
Yes that will be fine to use, just watch out for cross threading.
thanks

p1w1

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2013, 08:58:32 am »
You can use a 1" to 1/2" reducer - 2nd option on this product page - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/female-to-male-reducing-bush.html
Then you can screw in one of these - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/john-guest-1-2-inch-push-in-fitting-to-1-2-inch-male-screw-bspt-thread.html

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Total cost = £4.79+VAT
can you get this with a 15mm john guest fitting

Alex Gardiner

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Re: john guest fittings
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2013, 09:11:23 am »
No we can't get this fitting in 15mm.