[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Well been thinking of selling the lot and trying a new approach what do you think i could get for my setup.

Van Sign written (i'l be changing my name)
Full DF setup
Gutter Vacuum Setup with ladders also van sign written on back doors for this.
Also website added with it.

only thing to change contact details and phone numbers

what could i realistacally expect to get for the lot ?

Thanks Phil.

[Simon Gerrard]

Phil,
I'll give you fifty quid

What are you on to?

Simon

[AshWhite]

If you've got a good database of customers and a good reputation then you're selling a business.
If not, you're selling your gear.

How much do you think it's worth?

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Well that's the wheel trims sold Thanks Simon. Now how much for the rest lol and not onto anything just thinking of a fresh start New name New way of doing things iv'e got nothing to lose so come on Simon how much would you price my vans worth about 3kish full DF setup 3000w Gutter vac Setup and sign written with website ?  

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

If you've got a good database of customers and a good reputation then you're selling a business.
If not, you're selling your gear.

How much do you think it's worth?

Yes Ash just selling all the gear ready to go mate.

[Simon Moat]

Phil, sorry mate, it's worth next to nowt, you are the business, if someone is interested they would want to look at your books and at £20 a room your stuffed.

Stick with what you've got and start earning a better that average wage.

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Simon not selling as a ready made business, selling as everything ready to go to make your own  business 

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Phil,
I'll give you fifty quid

What are you on to?

Simon

I think you should take my Van  for your Rust bucket with that big heavy  engine thingy in the back 

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

A DF machine did not even go for £500 on Ebay not so long ago!

[Carpet Dawg]

sell the van seperate, take off the signage. Is the van in good condtion? if so, keep it! Why sell to buy another!?

Sell the df on here or ebay and sell it seperate from the van. Is the DF system in good condtion? did you buy it new? I think you can get a good price for this.

Why change the name? Have you had many complaints?

If I where you i'd take a breather away from carpet cleaning for a month. If you can afford it. (maybe get a temp job??) Sell the df system in the meantime.

Get 20,000 flyers made. (search on here for tips on high converting leaflets). Search online every night (spend least time as possible on here) for businesses that need carpet cleaners, copy down the emails, telephone number and addresses of these people. Get a new website made, get rid of the cheap prices on it. Buy a hwe machine, doesn't have to be fancy. Get a 2nd hand steamPro or something. Just make sure its in full working order etc.

Then spend your days door knocking and leaflet dropping. Do this as a job, from 9 till 5. When your not dropping leaflets you should be door knocking and when your not doing those two you should be sending out letters.
With ever customer you get, put thier details on database and market to them few times a year. Give each new customer 3 or more business cards, leave them overshoes etc etc

starting from scratch again is a pain, getting a new van, new signage, new website, new trading name etc
You just need a new way of thinking and hot water extraction machine!

Take action now. Action is power. You could spend the next 2 years asking questions on here, you'll only learn by doing.

[Mike Halliday]

Swop your kit for some powerwashing equipment and become zstremeclean drive & patio cleaners.

Powerwashing will give you a better income and their is less   Competition   & less price objections, I'm cleaning a drive next Wednesday for £220 they decided not to have the living room clean as they thought £70 was too much money.

Trust me this is the best advice you will receive, the powerwashing season will start in a month or so. You can even save some money and go back into carpet cleaning in sept  

[Simon Gerrard]

Phil,
I don't think you've thought this through properly. You already have the basis for a good business, why tear it all up to start all over again?
Your core problem is you are trying to apply an LM system to the general carpet cleaning market where you're not getting the results and so can't build a loyal customer base and so are permanently skint and have no money to invest in better equipment. Your website is on page one in Fleetwood and if it said the right things would get you business. Another problem is that you bought DF instead of choosing it - the difference being that if you chose it you would know its limitations and point your business towards the market it applies to, instead of the general market in which you can't really compete.
Instead of selling everything, why not address the issues that are holding you back?

Simon

[derek west]

if you own everything out right then what about a loan to give you a push

lets say £5k over 5 years to ease the repayment burden. £80 a month plus interest,

second hand HWE, (you've got agitation with the df) £1500

new improved website with some serious SEO £500

£55 ticket to the TACCA training day

that leaves you £2945 to spend wisely on advertising and riding the storm.

don't take this approach lightly though and make sure you do everything in your spare time to push for work. i think that's what i'd do if in your situation,
and if its no better you should be able to sell up and pay the loan back.

[*Hector*]

I must say Phil...

(can't believe this....) I agree with Simon..  

You have the makings of a specialist cleaning company... I only do LM and have not got DF... I make a good living, promoting the fact that it only takes 1 hour to dry, and I do not pump gallons and gallons of water into the customers carpets.. It is quieter, quicker, and more eco friendly..

I charge more than I ever did using HWE, and get lots of repeat business... I only used Solutions products for years, but have now tried and like Environ (thank You Paul Moss   ).

So rebrand if you must, but stop using the DF products and get some other ones and brand yourself as LOW MOISTURE - QUICK DRY.... etc


just a thought mate.

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

Cheers for all the advice And Mike i am adding pressure washing to my business along with hard floor cleaning and gutter vacking. I done drives last year with a lad who's dad set him up it was great except stopping and starting cause the machine used the water quicker than it filled the tank lol.

Also i want to go the HWE route and change the whole way i work and my DF is on Ebay at the moment with all the trimmings haha so someone buy it PLZ.  

[Simon Gerrard]

Phil,
But if you sell your gear you're out of business anyway and can't serve anyone who comes along in the meantime. 

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

I'l be buying different setup Simon and Derek that is a good Idea but i don't think i would get a loan off anyone. 

[Simon Gerrard]

You won't sell it at that price, no chance, might as well buy a new setup.

Also this on ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dry-Fusion-Machine-all-you-need-for-Dry-Carpet-Cleaning-business-/181075292472?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a28edb138

[Deep Cleaning Solutions]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carpet-Cleaning-Machine-Full-Dry-Fusion-Setup-/281059456694?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item417072f6b6

If you get anywhere near 2 grand for it i will bare my hairy arse at the top of Blackpool tower.  

Also in the first photo, it looks suspiciously like there is a HWE wand or upholstery tool .... mmmm,
unless it's my eyes.  

[Phil @ Extreme Clean]

If you read it says the Machine only 3 year old, 20 pads, restore Brush, Aquarius pro valet spotter sebo bs36 chems alot of extras there.