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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2013, 03:58:22 pm »
You're optimistic Rob. But I'm with Trevor on this. If you start with 1000L I can only see you recovering 300ish litres on block paving and areas where you're gonna struggle to cope catching in more than one place.

It works great in the US due to the vast amount of concrete.

Maybe you'll prove us wrong though and the power of the big brute will recover more.

Re: Recycling system
« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2013, 05:18:17 pm »
The method you have describe could work with rosemary tiles high reclaim rate + relatively simple filtration.
For bock paving however no chance, massive flow rates to deal with combined with strong vacuum which will only compound problem,  3ft socks even large micron 150 plus will block in seconds not minutes. As Roger said Gumclear had major probs huge investment, from memory far lower lpm and they used a HGV for their operation.

Anyone else suffering with snow again  ??? ???



Roger Oakley

Re: Recycling system
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2013, 06:12:18 pm »
The method you have describe could work with rosemary tiles high reclaim rate + relatively simple filtration.
For bock paving however no chance, massive flow rates to deal with combined with strong vacuum which will only compound problem,  3ft socks even large micron 150 plus will block in seconds not minutes. As Roger said Gumclear had major probs huge investment, from memory far lower lpm and they used a HGV for their operation.

Anyone else suffering with snow again  ??? ???


Martin got it down to a transit based system in the end, from memory cost around £100K per set-up, vehicle, machine, recovery etc, and was selling them to local auth.
No snow yet, but doing the old woodwork so can continue either way  ;)

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2013, 07:10:02 pm »
Another thing too Rob, I watch Atlanta Pressure Washing's video's on YouTube and they show the suction makes it difficult to push the Mosmatic along. Maybe a Big Brute would be even more difficult.

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2013, 07:29:20 pm »
Pi$$ing down all day here Mike

Rob_Mac

Re: Recycling system
« Reply #45 on: February 10, 2013, 08:25:02 pm »
Just got down to Staines

From Daventry all the way down to the M25 heavy, settling snow but just wet here.

I am going round to Rogers in a minute for a cup of hot chocolate.

I have the 30 inch Mosmatic with me to fix on one of their machines on Wednesday or Thursday.

Rob ;D

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #46 on: February 10, 2013, 08:36:23 pm »
Rob, was that Lee's mossie off ebay ?

I was racing today near Hook in Hampshire and it rained all day and I was soaked and frozen. Nows its snowing here and blowing so it'll drift and we'll be cut off again. I've got gutters booked in tomorrow and a dirty water pump to change - day off  ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: Recycling system
« Reply #47 on: February 10, 2013, 08:42:29 pm »
It was carl

If he wants to use it he can but he has got to polish it.

I've just spoke to my wife and it is snowing back home, we are just before the Peak District so i am expecting it to get bad up there but I'm not bothered as i am down here.

Lee - I think they have a different set up on the FScs over there, they seem to put three inlets straight through the top. I would be surprised if there was enough suction around the narrow edge of the mossy to slow it down.

Soon find out though - damned work gets in the way just as it gets interesting!!!

Rob ;D

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #48 on: February 10, 2013, 08:58:20 pm »

Rob_Mac

Re: Recycling system
« Reply #49 on: February 10, 2013, 09:00:39 pm »
I thought you'd gone for the night.

That made me laugh!!

Rob ;D

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #50 on: February 10, 2013, 10:17:24 pm »
I'm back. Been knocking up some quotes and showing her some attention.  ;D

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2013, 07:47:35 am »
This is a topic close to my heart as my water company are forcing me to do this, my filtration research has taken in quite a few technologies, one technology I've been assured would work to cover the level of soiling we encounter would be a filter press type filter, it's a dead simple system with next to no moving parts, has a very small footprint, however they are hideously expensive. A machine that would sit on a pallet inclusive of air pump would process aproximately 1000 litres an hour, this setup however new would cost about 7,000 grand for the filter plus the air filter and air compressor and trailer etc. The only other worthy technology I'e seen have been high end hydrocyclone filters and settlement tanks, however I've yet to test / put into practice.

Re: Recycling system
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2013, 07:56:25 am »


Martin got it down to a transit based system in the end, from memory cost around £100K per set-up, vehicle, machine, recovery etc, and was selling them to local auth.
No snow yet, but doing the old woodwork so can continue either way  ;)

That was designed for mobility and was it not for a 'single operative' ??? using principles that Trevor highlighted moderate ltrs, high bar & hot. The reason I ref to a HGV is Rob is after numerous users working over large distances, the vacuum hose alone will be huge - one of our hoses 2" x 10m mounted on a swimming pool reel measures over 2ft dia 10" wide, Rob is after 200m. :-X The 'Brute' uses even larger dia hoses.

This has all been discussed last yr has it not .. At that stage he even looked at using a 1" vac hose. What happened to the 'setup last' yr  ??? as it was due to be in his van in June ???  Maybe its just me suffering from deja vu

... snow again

 

trevor perry

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2013, 08:11:50 am »
i  think the only way to achieve good drying results would be for the drying system to follow the surface cleaner similar to how a walk behind scrubber drier works but Rob may be right the air flow on the big brute might just manage it, i am glad someone is willing to give it a go because if a system like this can be developed our job will be a lot quicker look more professional and remove so much pedestrian control measures
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2013, 05:11:04 pm »
Mike, what vac do you use to suck from the gutter and what filters have you got in place to re-use the water?

chris scott

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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2013, 03:12:36 pm »
Rob ..how did the demo go?
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Re: Recycling system
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2013, 05:40:44 pm »
Chris

I haven't been over because I am going onto a nightshift and have a further two nights at another store in East London, starting tomorrow.

Dependant on works next week I will try and get over then.

Rob ;D

Rob_Mac

Re: Recycling system
« Reply #57 on: March 18, 2013, 09:26:16 pm »
Just an update on this.

Coming back from works the guy I should have met wasn't there so I left it. Thinking I will deal with it shortly.

Looked at works today where I need recycling because it is inside an entrance.

Fortunately I have two carpet cleaners that don't get used so one of the gennys and a carpet cleaning machine are going into the van to take care of this urgent job

Should have got on with it while I had the time!!! - lesson learnt

Rob ;D