[DaveG]

Me too! 

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Just for you kentkleen I have one full time staff and yes in house training. Just to let you know I have ben cleaning windows since 14 with my dad and grandad im now 28. So 14 years in the trade and only once have I hurt myself which was my fault I went up a ladder 2 floors up and it slipped which to be honest I knew it was going to happen but still went up. But then who am I to say some thing you been cleaning what 3 years mate. I think a lot of you are just stupid if you need to keep going on acourse for everything. How.much was the course you went on to learn how to leave your house safely.

Yes thats right I am a thick stupid window cleaner, I started window cleaning aged 17 straight from school I am now 38 and have been water fed pole for 3 years.

You had made a few comments putting down the need for 'proper' certified training and yet you seem to promote h&s on your site in fact you try to use it as one of your selling points.
You dont in fact have a clean safety record as you have clearly announced your little mishap. As you put it, you knewthey where going to slip and yet you still tryed to climb them. I am just glad for you that they did not slip when you where higher up.

Sorry in advance for any more of my pointless remarks, just remember I AM A THICK WINDOW CLEANER.  

[Ben wood]

Just for the record I fell from the top and broke both arms and ankle and to clear it up inwas working for my dad at the time so no my company has not had any mishaps thanks mr stupid

[P @ F]

Just out of interest , how many of you would have used the same methods that i did ?

As some of you are aware , i have the gutter vac , but on this job it would have been useless , the pitched roof was the full length of the building bar 2 metres at one side , no access was available from the other side , it was around 10 metres deep leading onto a steel corrugated shed roof of about 2 metres of depth , no vac even with carbon poles was usable .
The front of the building was a chore for a vac too , balcony one side and pitched tile roof to the other , the angles for the vac poles would have been horrendous for the human back !

OK , Scaffold would then be the only other safest option , a little bit uncalled for me thinks !

So come on then , would you have done as i did , honest answers please !

Rich

[stuart mc]

Just out of interest , how many of you would have used the same methods that i did ?

As some of you are aware , i have the gutter vac , but on this job it would have been useless , the pitched roof was the full length of the building bar 2 metres at one side , no access was available from the other side , it was around 10 metres deep leading onto a steel corrugated shed roof of about 2 metres of depth , no vac even with carbon poles was usable .
The front of the building was a chore for a vac too , balcony one side and pitched tile roof to the other , the angles for the vac poles would have been horrendous for the human back !

OK , Scaffold would then be the only other safest option , a little bit uncalled for me thinks !

So come on then , would you have done as i did , honest answers please !

Rich

aye me

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

Just for the record I fell from the top and broke both arms and ankle and to clear it up inwas working for my dad at the time so no my company has not had any mishaps thanks mr stupid

I would invest in some proper 'certified' training in the use of ladders. 
Seriously glad you are ok tho. I do like your website and your pricing. Fair play to you Ben!

[P @ F]

Thankyou Stuart M , i know we disagreed a while back about the other pic i posted with the dude doing cavity insulation , but that was pure risk at that angle in soft ground .

And those muppets on the roof spoke for itself .

Rich  

[R.C Property]

Just out of interest , how many of you would have used the same methods that i did ?

As some of you are aware , i have the gutter vac , but on this job it would have been useless , the pitched roof was the full length of the building bar 2 metres at one side , no access was available from the other side , it was around 10 metres deep leading onto a steel corrugated shed roof of about 2 metres of depth , no vac even with carbon poles was usable .
The front of the building was a chore for a vac too , balcony one side and pitched tile roof to the other , the angles for the vac poles would have been horrendous for the human back !

OK , Scaffold would then be the only other safest option , a little bit uncalled for me thinks !

So come on then , would you have done as i did , honest answers please !

Rich

questions before answer,
was anyone in?
plus in the pic with the ladder leaning on the sloped roof, was there room for  the ladder to lean onto the house wall?

[P @ F]

No they were all out Rich

Rich

[R.C Property]

sorry added another question,

[P @ F]

Yeh just noticed , i could have done that but as said earlier it would have left the base of the ladder unfooted on mossy steps , the direction i took meant a six foot high wall footed it for me.

Rich 

[R.C Property]

ok cheers,

i would of tried to do it when they was in and carried our platform step and used that on the balcony. for that one,
then if therewas room set my ladders with a stand off to the main house wall and used our gutter pole and hook to drag the bits to us and empty it that way.

as no one was in,

extended the ladders above the balcony rail and gained access that way then either pulled up either our step ladders or platform step to use that.

do you have anyone that you could do them with? like a part part time worker or friend just to help foot ladders carry all the kit for you etc?

[Frankybadboy]

rich

they would all have or they all have done it in the past

rich

[P @ F]

Franky rich bad boy feel the love .......

Would you ?

Rich   

[P @ F]

R.C  , i get you one minute then you blow me away the next !!!

From what you just said , it would have been safer to foot the ladder with a stand off on mossy steps for the back ??

Then over extend a ladder for the front against railings giving it the perfect opportunity to slide either way with no railing spindles to stop it , then if you are lucky enough to clamber over the rail without falling off , you would use what i think you call a platform step , i think of them as a plasterers hop up , these would put you 2 foot higher against the railing height with no point of solid contact for one hand at least , i used the professional A frame thus giving one of my hands a point of contact .

I do believe that i took the best and safest option for the job 

Also , why the customer in or out bit , surely you dont mean that you cut safety corners if they are out , or do you get them to foot your ladder if they are in 

Rich 

[Frankybadboy]

have done it yes and probaly done a lot worst as well and not affaid to say so.
is it right or is it wrong

rich yes i do feel the love baby

=franky loves you all

[Ben wood]

Thanks kentklean the website is nearly finished I was only 16 so 12 years ago user error on that one I was two floors up with one foot on the ladder the other foot on the window sill trying to reach a bit of guttering and the ladder slipped next thing I new I was in an abulance lol least im still here

[P @ F]

LOVE YA FRANKY  

Rich

[PurefectWindowCleaning]

Rich - i'd of done exactly the same as you mate.

[P @ F]

James your just PUURRRFECT !

Rich