[P @ F]

Whats your payload RC , that IMPACT 43 manual you carry must weigh a fair bit , being as there is half a rainforest of wasted paper in it 

Rich 

[R.C Property]

600kg

No not got hard copy of it, its on my 64gb tablet!!!!! Easier to carry about and more eco friendly lol

[P @ F]

So 600 payload , minus you and your big hefty memory tablet , you gotta be over surely ?

Tank size ?   

Rich

[R.C Property]

Not according to the police approved weighbridge

2 tanks, 1x250 1x125

Due to filling the 250 is never full must be about 200-225lts
125lt due to shape is about 100lts.

Total of water about 300-350lts.

[P @ F]

Your over then mate , water and tanks is 400kg alone ,plus you and your tablet , all your boxing in , poles , diesel

RICH 

[R.C Property]

Your over then mate , water and tanks is 400kg alone ,plus you and your tablet , all your boxing in , poles , diesel

RICH 

Like I said the van was weighed at a police approved weighbridge just down the road from where I live, and they said it wasn't over weight. So i think i would believe them that do it for a job for the police than someone else that dont. No offence!

[P @ F]

None taken , but you know the truth , i only put myself at risk when climbing my ladder , an overloaded van puts not only you but all other innocent road users at risk , but i suppose its down to where you want to draw the line with H+S to meet your needs and not others !

Rich 

[R.C Property]

The weighbridge people can't lie, its against the law and they would be in a lot of trouble, plus the weighbridge is done through a computer system so can't be falsified!
I'm not putting anyone in any risk. The van is in its limit.
I respect my life and want to see my daughter grow up, why should I risk that!!!!

[Andrew Willis]

As above , done this stinky job the other day , if its any good for your web or flyers then crack on .

Rich

 

Hi Richard

I don't agree with Ian Lancaster on this post.

I agree with RC property

We all have a duty of care for each other
The property owner to you
You to yourself and your family

From one window cleaner to another, what ever your view on IMPACT43,

i recommend you stop cleaning as you are in these photos

My suggestion

if you are unsure about how unsafe your work practices are in these photos forward this post to the HSE or EHO.

Also to your insurance company and ask if you are insured

I would like to use this as a case study if I may at a seminar slot at the Cleaning Show

I also would like to Invite Ian to attend so he can put his views across to a panel I am inviting including the FWC, HSE and some important established professional window cleaners.

My contact details are on www.training43.com. My mobile is  07749 704671
Please feel free to give me a call

Kind regards


Andy

[Crystal-clear]

Good job m8t but Please everyone be aware ladders have taken life's of window cleaners we don't need to use them anymore ,wfp gutter vac all the way the most I do is a step ladder Rarely and haven't in months

[sean mcc]

Hi Rich
   Good honest reasonably priced Job,im sure you know you are safe when you are doing it,sometimes this H&S can all get a bit out of hand IMO.

[Window Washers]

Neither ladder is tall enough to climb off it safely
Climbing over the railings
Ladder on timber decking without anything to stop it slipping
Ladder set at wrong angle leaning on railings to stop it
Ladder leaning on a the edge of a sloping roof
Climbing over moss covered sloping roof

Think that's it.

Man up mate....

tell that to dead window cleaners family's James

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=164851.0

p@f was a very nice thing to do adding pictires for others, they are nice and clear, the problem is the things in the pictures, they speak a thousand words, and breach so many rules we have to abide by (like it or not) maybe you didnt know about these.

[Ben wood]

I think the impact cources make things worse by yrying to scare us in to things that arnt right. Its stupid. Why shoild I trust what you say andrew. Lets be honest you.only do the courses to line your pockets from tax payers mate. If we stuck to what you say we would have no work due to some one else coming along and doing the work without a care in h ans s. To be honest I think your a jobs worth numpty

[R.C Property]

I think the impact cources make things worse by yrying to scare us in to things that arnt right. Its stupid. Why shoild I trust what you say andrew. Lets be honest you.only do the courses to line your pockets from tax payers mate. If we stuck to what you say we would have no work due to some one else coming along and doing the work without a care in h ans s. To be honest I think your a jobs worth numpty

Take it you not been on one?
It's not about not using ladders or. Anything like that, it shows you how to work safely and to the law.

It's there to make sure you are safe and to protect your company, workers, yourself and family.
For example if rich feel off the ladders set like that, even though im sure he has insurance etc, they would look at it and see that he didn't comlpy with things, meaning if he is off work for good no-one would pay out any insurance money or worst case if he died his family would lose everything due to him working un safely.

I wouldnt want to see anyone loose what they work so hard to build up, one minute you have a very successful business, next minute you can loose the lot!! It's happened to people.

[Ben wood]

I agree with certain thing but some things he stayws are not true. I wont listen to a jumped up window cleaner I would rather follow what is writtten by the hse and wahr thanks. I think the bloke is an idiot. He thinks he is above mosy of us cause he does these courses. You will never learn everything until tour out doing the job. And not only would your van be overweight the way your tanks are held in is not safe. Those silly little raxhets will do nothing ro stop the atnks killing you. By the way rich when you did this job did cordon of the whole area as thats breaking the law you know. Lol

[R.C Property]

I agree with certain thing but some things he stayws are not true. I wont listen to a jumped up window cleaner I would rather follow what is writtten by the hse and wahr thanks. I think the bloke is an idiot. He thinks he is above mosy of us cause he does these courses. You will never learn everything until tour out doing the job. And not only would your van be overweight the way your tanks are held in is not safe. Those silly little raxhets will do nothing ro stop the atnks killing you. By the way rich when you did this job did cordon of the whole area as thats breaking the law you know. Lol

Looks like you can't read either, the van was filled up taken to a police approved weighbridge and passed without being over weight at all.
I would not drive it with it being over weight.

As for the tanks they are safe too, the straps will help stop movement in a crash.

How often do people check there metal frame bolts, the base of the van can rust in time and become very weak, then the tank is just sitting there without being strongly bolted. Seen it with others things that have been bolted down.

Video of a crash tested rachet straps
http://youtu.be/UW5WsjZoPeA

Crash tested before straps fitted
http://youtu.be/oFe4FBuEt8k

[Ben wood]

Yeah keep telling yourself that. As for the straps I would put my house on it that if you crashed at 40 mph younwould be pretty much dead mate. As for framed i agree they could rust but I would rather have a framed system from ionics so it gives me a chance of getting out alive. If we worried about all safety isues you would not leave the house. Its funny you have been cleaning windows what two years. You have a lot to learn mate.

[Window Washers]

I agree with certain thing but some things he stayws are not true. I wont listen to a jumped up window cleaner I would rather follow what is writtten by the hse and wahr thanks. I think the bloke is an idiot. He thinks he is above mosy of us cause he does these courses. You will never learn everything until tour out doing the job. And not only would your van be overweight the way your tanks are held in is not safe. Those silly little raxhets will do nothing ro stop the atnks killing you. By the way rich when you did this job did cordon of the whole area as thats breaking the law you know. Lol

Woods do you know what puwer is ?

[R.C Property]

The police approved weighbridge can't not lie about it.
At least I took it and got tested!
Van mounted systems are only tested to 30!!!!! So who knows what happens to them after that speed!!!!!

Been 4 years, 2 on my own now and 2 with someone that's been doing it 21years.
Everyone has a lot still to learn you never stop!

[R.C Property]

I agree with certain thing but some things he stayws are not true. I wont listen to a jumped up window cleaner I would rather follow what is writtten by the hse and wahr thanks. I think the bloke is an idiot. He thinks he is above mosy of us cause he does these courses. You will never learn everything until tour out doing the job. And not only would your van be overweight the way your tanks are held in is not safe. Those silly little raxhets will do nothing ro stop the atnks killing you. By the way rich when you did this job did cordon of the whole area as thats breaking the law you know. Lol

Woods do you know what puwer is ?

That's not a fair question really, he has google to find it out!