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bobplum

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reviews on the extreme pole
« on: February 01, 2013, 09:42:32 pm »
as any one got an extreme pole from gardiners,if so do you have any feed back on it.
is it worth the money?
does it reduce fatigue and so on
cheers bob

Richard iSparkle

  • Posts: 2491
Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 09:53:17 pm »
its definitely lighter, but not sure for shorter lengths it makes a lot of difference.  We've got a 25' and its a nice pole.

one huge disadvantage is the way you have just 2 points you can clamp each section at.  on ours one of the clamp points is more narrow than the others so you need to tighten the clamps if your clamping on that section  ::)

worse still, the 2nd section has lost a couple of inches due to a break...  on any other pole you would just lose that couple of inches, on this we can no longer clamp at that section so we have lost use of half a pole section.  so that's 2-3' lost or buying an expensive replacement section.  seems like a pointless change to me  :P
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

bobplum

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Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 10:00:31 pm »
cheers Richard,next time i see your van on my patch ;D ;D can i have a look and a feel :o
you have not been for a while been busy?

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 10:15:19 pm »
I've had a couple for about 20 months now.  They are fantastic, the ultimate in rigidity and lightness, I do also think that they wear at a lower rate due to the way they are constructed.  Grit and sand doesn't normally stay caught up in the pole. Very fast pole to erect and take down as well.

Simon.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 10:16:37 pm »
if you ever make it over onto woodlands drive you should give me a knock 8)

i've got my 2 guys out now so not been on the van in a while.  mostly working from home or working in the office nowadays

the xtreme is in my garage nowadays since that section broke.  not much point in having it repaired at the price of those sections.

you could buy it off me if you like...
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

Nick_Thompson

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Re: reviews on the extreme pole New
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 10:20:21 pm »
Over the last couple of years I have had the opportunity to conduct some experimentation to equate the supposition that lighter equals faster in the world of WFP's. At a particular commercial site, that leant itself to such an undertaking, l established the average time taken to complete a clean with a predetermined standard of equipment taken as a constant. I then determined to ascertain the time variables, if any, with a single alteration to the setup each consecutive clean.
 Assuming that my technique altered as a direct result of the changes made and not as a result of exaggerated effort, the time disparities were interesting.
 I'll spare you the pedantic nature of the intermediaries and cut to the two extremes.
So, for a commercial position that was cleaned traditionally by a window cleaner with a serious purpose in his stride, this job required 7 1/2 hours labour. Both the following choices of equipment proved to be very quick methods of cleaning windows but the slowest resulting from a SL flocked bristled brush (weight and friction were contributing factors) with 1 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, on a 25 ft carbon fiber pole. Within the confines of the experimentation, which, as you can appreciate, weren't extreme (l'm only referring to various flow rates, SLX poles and SL brushes), this arrangement provided the heaviest weight, the most friction and the least flow rate and also initially provided the standard to obtain an average time of 4 hours 10 minutes. After a concatenation of tweaks over the next 2 years or so, the quickest arrangement was procured at 2 hours 40 minutes. This was achieved with a DT SL Xtreme mono filament bristled brush with 3mm jets, 4 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, and an extremely worn (therefore lighter, at 780g) 18 ft SLX pole. That's 1 1/2 hours quicker than an already very quick cleaning method.
So, if, like me, you work on your own and can look after the equipment, it might be worth investing in the necessary upgrades.
I think, therefore I experiment!    
Nick  
Do quantum mechanics fix old transits?

And let us not forget, voyeurism is an occupational hazard that we simply must endure.

bobplum

  • Posts: 5602
Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 10:25:11 pm »
if you ever make it over onto woodlands drive you should give me a knock 8)

i've got my 2 guys out now so not been on the van in a while.  mostly working from home or working in the office nowadays

the xtreme is in my garage nowadays since that section broke.  not much point in having it repaired at the price of those sections.

you could buy it off me if you like...

will give you a knock on Monday to discuss,my coffee is white,no sugar :-*

Richard iSparkle

  • Posts: 2491
Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 10:26:08 pm »
best bring your own flask mate  ;D
iSparkle Window Cleaning

www.isparklewindowcleaning.uk

bobplum

  • Posts: 5602
Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2013, 10:26:33 pm »
Over the last couple of years I have had the opportunity to conduct some experimentation to equate the supposition that lighter equals faster in the world of WFP's. At a particular commercial site, that leant itself to such an undertaking, l established the average time taken to complete a clean with a predetermined standard of equipment taken as a constant. I then determined to ascertain the time variables, if any, with a single alteration to the setup each consecutive clean.
 Assuming that my technique altered as a direct result of the changes made and not as a result of exaggerated effort, the time disparities were interesting.
 I'll spare you the pedantic nature of the intermediaries and cut to the two extremes.
So, for a commercial position that was cleaned traditionally by a window cleaner with a serious purpose in his stride, this job required 7 1/2 hours labour. Both the following choices of equipment proved to be very quick methods of cleaning windows but the slowest resulting from a SL flocked bristled brush (weight and friction were contributing factors) with 1 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, on a 25 ft carbon fiber pole. Within the confines of the experimentation, which, as you can appreciate, weren't extreme (l'm only referring to various flow rates, SLX poles and SL brushes), this arrangement provided the heaviest weight, the most friction and the least flow rate and also initially provided the standard to obtain an average time of 4 hours 10 minutes. After a concatenation of tweaks over the next 2 years or so, the quickest arrangement was procured at 2 hours 40 minutes. This was achieved with a DT SL Xtreme mono filament bristled brush with 3mm jets, 4 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, and an extremely worn (therefore lighter, at 780g) 18 ft SLX pole. That's 1 1/2 hours quicker than an already very quick cleaning method. So, if, like I do, you work on your own and can look after the equipment, it might be worth investing in the necessary upgrades.
I think, therefore I experiment!    
Nick  


for some reason you remind me of sheldon cooper on the big bang theory ;D
good review

Nick_Thompson

  • Posts: 810
Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2013, 10:33:57 pm »
Knock, knock, knock, bobplum. Knock, knock, knock bobplum. Knock, knock, knock bobplum.  ;D
Do quantum mechanics fix old transits?

And let us not forget, voyeurism is an occupational hazard that we simply must endure.

Nick_Thompson

  • Posts: 810
Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 10:51:11 pm »
Hold up! Doesn't Sheldon become a little inebriated by the exuberance of my own verbosity?
Do quantum mechanics fix old transits?

And let us not forget, voyeurism is an occupational hazard that we simply must endure.

Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 11:03:42 pm »
Over the last couple of years I have had the opportunity to conduct some experimentation to equate the supposition that lighter equals faster in the world of WFP's. At a particular commercial site, that leant itself to such an undertaking, l established the average time taken to complete a clean with a predetermined standard of equipment taken as a constant. I then determined to ascertain the time variables, if any, with a single alteration to the setup each consecutive clean.
 Assuming that my technique altered as a direct result of the changes made and not as a result of exaggerated effort, the time disparities were interesting.
 I'll spare you the pedantic nature of the intermediaries and cut to the two extremes.
So, for a commercial position that was cleaned traditionally by a window cleaner with a serious purpose in his stride, this job required 7 1/2 hours labour. Both the following choices of equipment proved to be very quick methods of cleaning windows but the slowest resulting from a SL flocked bristled brush (weight and friction were contributing factors) with 1 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, on a 25 ft carbon fiber pole. Within the confines of the experimentation, which, as you can appreciate, weren't extreme (l'm only referring to various flow rates, SLX poles and SL brushes), this arrangement provided the heaviest weight, the most friction and the least flow rate and also initially provided the standard to obtain an average time of 4 hours 10 minutes. After a concatenation of tweaks over the next 2 years or so, the quickest arrangement was procured at 2 hours 40 minutes. This was achieved with a DT SL Xtreme mono filament bristled brush with 3mm jets, 4 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, and an extremely worn (therefore lighter, at 780g) 18 ft SLX pole. That's 1 1/2 hours quicker than an already very quick cleaning method. So, if, like I do, you work on your own and can look after the equipment, it might be worth investing in the necessary upgrades.
I think, therefore I experiment!    
Nick  
I love people who love language and you do! Language is a thing of sartorial elegance! And you are a legend!

Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 11:08:36 pm »
Getting to the subject at hand. I have a 25ft extreme. It's the best pole I have owned. It's rigid, fast to work with and as noted on just about every thread on here, gardiner are a great company to deal with.

The base of my back has no discs in the lower 3 vertebrae and gives me some grief, despite only being 32.  This led me to exploring other avenues of work but more recently, the poles I work with. I get no grief when. Work with my extreme. It cost me £665 (!) but for me, it is worth every hard earned penny. I've had it about 4 months. I am looking forward to seeing how durable it is.

Ian Lancaster

  • Posts: 2811
Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 11:23:14 pm »
Over the last couple of years I have had the opportunity to conduct some experimentation to equate the supposition that lighter equals faster in the world of WFP's. At a particular commercial site, that leant itself to such an undertaking, l established the average time taken to complete a clean with a predetermined standard of equipment taken as a constant. I then determined to ascertain the time variables, if any, with a single alteration to the setup each consecutive clean.
 Assuming that my technique altered as a direct result of the changes made and not as a result of exaggerated effort, the time disparities were interesting.
 I'll spare you the pedantic nature of the intermediaries and cut to the two extremes.
So, for a commercial position that was cleaned traditionally by a window cleaner with a serious purpose in his stride, this job required 7 1/2 hours labour. Both the following choices of equipment proved to be very quick methods of cleaning windows but the slowest resulting from a SL flocked bristled brush (weight and friction were contributing factors) with 1 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, on a 25 ft carbon fiber pole. Within the confines of the experimentation, which, as you can appreciate, weren't extreme (l'm only referring to various flow rates, SLX poles and SL brushes), this arrangement provided the heaviest weight, the most friction and the least flow rate and also initially provided the standard to obtain an average time of 4 hours 10 minutes. After a concatenation of tweaks over the next 2 years or so, the quickest arrangement was procured at 2 hours 40 minutes. This was achieved with a DT SL Xtreme mono filament bristled brush with 3mm jets, 4 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, and an extremely worn (therefore lighter, at 780g) 18 ft SLX pole. That's 1 1/2 hours quicker than an already very quick cleaning method. So, if, like I do, you work on your own and can look after the equipment, it might be worth investing in the necessary upgrades.
I think, therefore I experiment!    
Nick  
I love people who love language and you do! Language is a thing of sartorial elegance! And you are a legend!

Concatenation

I have to report a totally ghasted flabber.  And admit an abysmal ignorance.

But my OED advises me and embellishes my erudition.

It is a real word.

It does exist.

I read, therefore I learn.



Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 11:26:28 pm »
Over the last couple of years I have had the opportunity to conduct some experimentation to equate the supposition that lighter equals faster in the world of WFP's. At a particular commercial site, that leant itself to such an undertaking, l established the average time taken to complete a clean with a predetermined standard of equipment taken as a constant. I then determined to ascertain the time variables, if any, with a single alteration to the setup each consecutive clean.
 Assuming that my technique altered as a direct result of the changes made and not as a result of exaggerated effort, the time disparities were interesting.
 I'll spare you the pedantic nature of the intermediaries and cut to the two extremes.
So, for a commercial position that was cleaned traditionally by a window cleaner with a serious purpose in his stride, this job required 7 1/2 hours labour. Both the following choices of equipment proved to be very quick methods of cleaning windows but the slowest resulting from a SL flocked bristled brush (weight and friction were contributing factors) with 1 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, on a 25 ft carbon fiber pole. Within the confines of the experimentation, which, as you can appreciate, weren't extreme (l'm only referring to various flow rates, SLX poles and SL brushes), this arrangement provided the heaviest weight, the most friction and the least flow rate and also initially provided the standard to obtain an average time of 4 hours 10 minutes. After a concatenation of tweaks over the next 2 years or so, the quickest arrangement was procured at 2 hours 40 minutes. This was achieved with a DT SL Xtreme mono filament bristled brush with 3mm jets, 4 1/2 litres a minute flow rate, and an extremely worn (therefore lighter, at 780g) 18 ft SLX pole. That's 1 1/2 hours quicker than an already very quick cleaning method. So, if, like I do, you work on your own and can look after the equipment, it might be worth investing in the necessary upgrades.
I think, therefore I experiment!    
Nick  
I love people who love language and you do! Language is a thing of sartorial elegance! And you are a legend!

Concatenation

I have to report a totally ghasted flabber.  And admit an abysmal ignorance.

But my OED advises me and embellishes my erudition.

It is a real word.

It does exist.

I read, therefore I learn.



Here endeth today's lesson!

AuRavelling79

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Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2013, 12:26:24 am »
I have an extreme 47 which I run as a 35ft. It is lighter than my old SLX30 which I now run as an SLX20.

It's a game of three halves!

bobplum

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Re: reviews on the extreme pole
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2013, 08:19:25 am »
Knock, knock, knock, bobplum. Knock, knock, knock bobplum. Knock, knock, knock bobplum.  ;D

iii  like it ;D ;D