[jeff evans]

Hi all.
Just had a phone call from a firm in stafford asking me for a hourly rate
for a upcoming job in warrington( 8 miles from my home )
this job can only be done between 1am and 5am. dont know why he dident
give a reason.

he tells me that the building will be a large one ( it,s not built yet he as just got the plans,  they are a cleaning firm wanting to contract the work out as they dont use wfp he tells me )

the building is 7mtr high and 170 mtr long and from what he says it,s virtually
all glass. and will need doing every month.

How much per hour should i charge for two people ?
any help would be apprecated.

JEFF.

[steve k]

firstly...you need to visit site and ensure it can be done to your standards within the 4 hour bracket.
As for charging, charge your normal hourly rate for 4 hours, X 2 for your helper and pay them 30-50% of your hourly rate.

EG:) if you usually earn £20 per hour, the charge will be £160 for 4 hours work for 2 cleaners.
I would pay a helper £10 per hour on this job:

you make £120
helper makes £40

Thats business

[Moderator David@stives]

Remember to allow that it is early hours so you need to add apremium to that amount


dave

[jeff evans]

Hi steve, time is not a issue if it takes two nights he says that will be o.k, i need to take in to account that we will not want to work a full day following working these hrs,

So we will loose money on the following days work.

Cheers JEFF.

[John Conroy]

60 pounds per hour per man =  early hours-he does not have a WFP- lost of work next day...

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

 Do you REALY need the work?
Personaly I wouldn't touch got enough good day work without that hastle.
Just put in a silly price like £800.  If he accepts then you can lay in the next day and still make a mint!!

David

[Marc's on the Glass, LLC]

Because of the time frame, I would tell him that it would have to be a full-days pay,since there's not much you can do when you're done at 5 AM, and you can't do much after waiting for the day to begin.

Also, I would never give a bid based on an hourly rate.  Once you get the place clean and maintain it, you would hope to spend much less time on it.  Don't want folks questioning your prices when they learn you aren't spending as much time as you did originally.

[pjulk]

I used to clean windows in unsociable hours and used to get paid 1 1/2 times the normal rate

Paul

[steve k]

just noticed/realised the AM in the times :...add 50%.
The price quoted remains the same for every clean regardless of time spent on the clean...the customer is paying for the end product...clean windows...how long it takes is your concern only

[Ian_Giles]

I would personally be very wary of pricing up a job like this without being able to actually see the building in its completed state.
There are so many variables that might bite you in the arse when you come to do the job.
I would never give an hourly rate, but a buildinf 170m long is huge!!

Daivid said put in a silly price of £800............I don't think that sounds silly at all

You could perhaps say that a charge of £400 per night would apply, for this type of work, and with 2 people I would expect to earn this much in four hours, particularly such unsocial hours.
If the building is one of those with almost all glass that is a huge amount of glass, 170m by 7m is a lot of glass, then there are the 2 sides and the rear of the building too.
I wouldn't fancy the initial clean if I had to knife off loads of silicon though
Cherry picker time
I've never done anything remotely approaching that size though, I have a job even visualizing a building 170m long covered in plate glass

No way would I feel confident enough to price it by looking at the plans only.

Best of luck though.

Thinking further I reckon £800 would be pretty cheap.

How many panes of glass in the building, and what size are the individual panes?

Ian

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

OK

£1000,  £1500,

Realy doesn't matter if you don't need the job!

David

[dish]

stupid question maybe, how are you going to see where you're working in the dark?

[jeff evans]

Thanks for your comments, had a good think about this one and decided to leave it well alone, as im,e a novice at wfp,
i was supposed to phone him on monday morning but dident
bother, but he must be desperate because he phoned my house during the day.

cheers jeff.

[windows_chepstow]

Thanks for your comments, had a good think about this one and decided to leave it well alone, as im,e a novice at wfp,
i was supposed to phone him on monday morning but dident
bother, but he must be desperate because he phoned my house during the day.

cheers jeff.

Jeff,

Don't be soft mate.

Quote high and if you get the job, have-a-go!

At best you'll earn some seriously good money.

At worst, you'll have had a learning experience.

No-one will die from any mistakes you make.  We're not ruddy surgeons are we?

Phone him tomorrow; make some excuse (your granny died) and have a go.

Honest.  Where's your dangly bits?

[jeff evans]

HI TOSH.

MY DANGLY BITS ARE IN THE USUAL PLACE, THATS WHERE I LIKE THEM.

DONT WANT TO RUN BEFORE I CAN WALK THAT,S ALL.

IF ANYBODY IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO DO THE JOB IM,E QUITE WILLING TO GIVE THEM THE PHONE NUMBER.

CHEERS JEFF.

[windows_chepstow]

HI TOSH.

MY DANGLY BITS ARE IN THE USUAL PLACE, THATS WHERE I LIKE THEM.

DONT WANT TO RUN BEFORE I CAN WALK THAT,S ALL.

IF ANYBODY IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO DO THE JOB IM,E QUITE WILLING TO GIVE THEM THE PHONE NUMBER.

CHEERS JEFF.

Jeff,

WFPolling isn't rocket science mate.

Go on.

Take the advice given.

Quote high and if you do get the job, give it a go.

As long as your water is TDS 000.

Especially since it needs doing every month.

It's a gift!

Just warn them that WFP may take two or three cleans to get it perfect and away you go.

You'll be kicking yourself in a few months if you don't take it.

Unless that is you don't fancy the unsociable hours that is, but make sure that's factored in, in the quote.

[thewindowcleaner1]

I tell all my customers that I charge by the job NOT the time it takes,

Once had a customer ring and complain that a member of staff had informed them I had only been on site for half an hour and I could not have done the job correctly,
To which i replied that  I had only been on site for 20 minutes and The price I charge was for the job and not the time I spend on site, They should check my work standard and ring back if not up to standard. They rang back and paid no problem.

In fact have picked more work up from same company
Its better to price by the job and not time spent (although you need to calculate the time its going to take you to complete the job plus I would then at least double it as you will be working a night shifty

[mark dew]

HI TOSH.

MY DANGLY BITS ARE IN THE USUAL PLACE, THATS WHERE I LIKE THEM.

DONT WANT TO RUN BEFORE I CAN WALK THAT,S ALL.

IF ANYBODY IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO DO THE JOB IM,E QUITE WILLING TO GIVE THEM THE PHONE NUMBER.

CHEERS JEFF.

Jeff,

WFPolling isn't rocket science mate.

Go on.

Take the advice given.

Quote high and if you do get the job, give it a go.

As long as your water is TDS 000.

Especially since it needs doing every month.

It's a gift!

Just warn them that WFP may take two or three cleans to get it perfect and away you go.

You'll be kicking yourself in a few months if you don't take it.

Unless that is you don't fancy the unsociable hours that is, but make sure that's factored in, in the quote.

Good advice. Who dares wins and all that.....

Go on mate, its a gift.

Pricing should be easy if the plans are available.

It must detail how many of what size glass windows there will be........

multiply that by your price per window and you will have a rough idea. Add the premium.

Come back on here with the information and you have a range of quotes to to help you.

........it could be the making of you

[daniel b]

Hi Jeff,
Can you e-mail me the phone number and name of contact as i may be interested, info@dsbcleaningservices.co.uk.

Cheers

Dan