[roundbuilder]

Tom work out 25% of whatthey do and work it out to an hourly rate. Or just simply pay 25% of what is done. Putting them on a price gets more done in the long run.

25% of what they do ? LOL !!! At that rate they could undercut you by 50% and double their wage !! Hang on, maybe i'm wrong and its possible to sit at home earning 75% of what an employee takes.

Why?? It works out between £8-10 an hour. If any of them tried to undercut me of screw me over id simply knock ten tonnes of poope out of them however this hasnt happened so i must be doing something right hey??.
I take it you would spend years building up a good reliable business, employ someone and pay 75% and mug yourself off.
Get real man 25% is more than reasonable.

[CleanClear]

Tom work out 25% of whatthey do and work it out to an hourly rate. Or just simply pay 25% of what is done. Putting them on a price gets more done in the long run.

25% of what they do ? LOL !!! At that rate they could undercut you by 50% and double their wage !! Hang on, maybe i'm wrong and its possible to sit at home earning 75% of what an employee takes.

Why?? It works out between £8-10 an hour. If any of them tried to undercut me of screw me over id simply knock ten tonnes of poope out of them however this hasnt happened so i must be doing something right hey??.
I take it you would spend years building up a good reliable business, employ someone and pay 75% and mug yourself off.
Get real man 25% is more than reasonable.

I've no idea of any certainty Mick, i'm like you i'm here for answers and questions. But i gather from what you have said if they won't work for 25% and they want to compete with you then you're prepared to  'knock ten tonnes of poope' out of them. That speaks volumes itself. A lot of people arn't phased by window cleaners, as that just what they are....window cleaners !!! Luckily for me my gaffer pays me a good bit more than 25% . Also at your quoted rates some one who 'operated' these cleaners would be making near or £30 a hour off them.You also sound like one of them hard nut cockney gangsters!!! Next you'll be telling me they're all CRB checked !!!

[roundbuilder]

Tom work out 25% of whatthey do and work it out to an hourly rate. Or just simply pay 25% of what is done. Putting them on a price gets more done in the long run.

25% of what they do ? LOL !!! At that rate they could undercut you by 50% and double their wage !! Hang on, maybe i'm wrong and its possible to sit at home earning 75% of what an employee takes.

Why?? It works out between £8-10 an hour. If any of them tried to undercut me of screw me over id simply knock ten tonnes of poope out of them however this hasnt happened so i must be doing something right hey??.
I take it you would spend years building up a good reliable business, employ someone and pay 75% and mug yourself off.
Get real man 25% is more than reasonable.

I've no idea of any certainty Mick, i'm like you i'm here for answers and questions. But i gather from what you have said if they won't work for 25% and they want to compete with you then you're prepared to  'knock ten tonnes of poope' out of them. That speaks volumes itself. A lot of people arn't phased by window cleaners, as that just what they are....window cleaners !!! Luckily for me my gaffer pays me a good bit more than 25% . Also at your quoted rates some one who 'operated' these cleaners would be making near or £30 a hour off them.You also sound like one of them hard nut cockney gangsters!!! Next you'll be telling me they're all CRB checked !!!

Your verey quick to judge arnt you, i dont make out im anything that im not im just honest.
Why would i go to all the hassle of building my waterfall to only get a drip out of it as a return???. I want to get soaked!!!.

[CleanClear]

Tom work out 25% of whatthey do and work it out to an hourly rate. Or just simply pay 25% of what is done. Putting them on a price gets more done in the long run.

25% of what they do ? LOL !!! At that rate they could undercut you by 50% and double their wage !! Hang on, maybe i'm wrong and its possible to sit at home earning 75% of what an employee takes.

Why?? It works out between £8-10 an hour. If any of them tried to undercut me of screw me over id simply knock ten tonnes of poope out of them however this hasnt happened so i must be doing something right hey??.
I take it you would spend years building up a good reliable business, employ someone and pay 75% and mug yourself off.
Get real man 25% is more than reasonable.

I've no idea of any certainty Mick, i'm like you i'm here for answers and questions. But i gather from what you have said if they won't work for 25% and they want to compete with you then you're prepared to  'knock ten tonnes of poope' out of them. That speaks volumes itself. A lot of people arn't phased by window cleaners, as that just what they are....window cleaners !!! Luckily for me my gaffer pays me a good bit more than 25% . Also at your quoted rates some one who 'operated' these cleaners would be making near or £30 a hour off them.You also sound like one of them hard nut cockney gangsters!!! Next you'll be telling me they're all CRB checked !!!

Your verey quick to judge arnt you, i dont make out im anything that im not im just honest.
Why would i go to all the hassle of building my waterfall to only get a drip out of it as a return???. I want to get soaked!!!.

I apologise if you think i was quick to judge but i can assure you that i can only go as fast as the posts come over to me and i can comprehend them. I also accept the notion that you are not a drip and that infact you are getting ped on.
 But it appears to me that from this thread most want to pay minimum wage or some sort of peacework type wage. The guys who actually do pay a wage worth earning seem to be few and far between.

[telfordwindowclnr]

So, just for my own peace of mind, I usually pick my lads up at 8am. They are usually back home by 3:30pm and have a full hour for lunch.  They are paid £70 a day. Is that a good deal for them or not? Just a yes or no will be fine. Thank you! 

[Johnny B]

So, just for my own peace of mind, I usually pick my lads up at 8am. They are usually back home by 3:30pm and have a full hour for lunch.  They are paid £70 a day. Is that a good deal for them or not? Just a yes or no will be fine. Thank you! 

Yes.

John

[roundbuilder]

So, just for my own peace of mind, I usually pick my lads up at 8am. They are usually back home by 3:30pm and have a full hour for lunch.  They are paid £70 a day. Is that a good deal for them or not? Just a yes or no will be fine. Thank you! 

Yes

[easy clean]

Depends how much work they so for you,
5 houses = yes
50 houses= no

[DG Cleaning]

£10/12 per hour is madness

Trained electrician are struggling to get this if they can get work !!

£12 If I paid £12 a hour they would have to do a lot ore than just clean windows

What you guys are paying them is more than trained and qualified tradesman ect

I know a firm local to me and it took them 3 months to find an electrician.
3 had interviews and turned the job down.
At £16 per hour

[anderclean]

So, just for my own peace of mind, I usually pick my lads up at 8am. They are usually back home by 3:30pm and have a full hour for lunch.  They are paid £70 a day. Is that a good deal for them or not? Just a yes or no will be fine. Thank you! 

that is a very good rate with those conditions...

[Joe Martin]

£75 a hour firstly he is not employee and secondly you will a dramatic change now, for example a full rewire on a semi can be done for £1500-£2000 which includes materials and when done correctly will never be £75 per hour not even £50 per hour maybe more like £17-25 and that's self employed /businesses

We need to also understand an employee is different then a self employed/ business rate please rise and shine and joe.

Finally I don't just work in Manchester and I see these rate all over the country, maybe some areas wages are higher but can cost 250k for a terrace in them areas too

Not really Ron we are having a house renovated, its what a electrical company charge round here, I take some of your points a valued we need the work done and they are cheaper than our  local supplier.

[telfordwindowclnr]

So, just for my own peace of mind, I usually pick my lads up at 8am. They are usually back home by 3:30pm and have a full hour for lunch.  They are paid £70 a day. Is that a good deal for them or not? Just a yes or no will be fine. Thank you! 

Yes.

John

Thanks John.

[telfordwindowclnr]

So, just for my own peace of mind, I usually pick my lads up at 8am. They are usually back home by 3:30pm and have a full hour for lunch.  They are paid £70 a day. Is that a good deal for them or not? Just a yes or no will be fine. Thank you! 

Yes

Thanks mick.

[telfordwindowclnr]

Depends how much work they so for you,
5 houses = yes
50 houses= no

3 of us took nearly 3 days to do 1 house inside and out before Christmas, but it still worked out a good deal for all of us.

[telfordwindowclnr]

So, just for my own peace of mind, I usually pick my lads up at 8am. They are usually back home by 3:30pm and have a full hour for lunch.  They are paid £70 a day. Is that a good deal for them or not? Just a yes or no will be fine. Thank you! 

that is a very good rate with those conditions...

Thanks anderclean.  Anytime they whine, which they havent done so far, I'm gonna show them this thread, even if its 2023!!!

[Window Washers]

£10/12 per hour is madness

Trained electrician are struggling to get this if they can get work !!

£12 If I paid £12 a hour they would have to do a lot ore than just clean windows

What you guys are paying them is more than trained and qualified tradesman ect

I know a firm local to me and it took them 3 months to find an electrician.
3 had interviews and turned the job down.
At £16 per hour

bet they are kicking themselves now. The sparky I just employed is getting £15 an hour from me (self employed) greed can cloud judgment sometimes there are not enough jobs and to many people to do them the good old days have since gone