[ronnie paton]

£10/12 per hour is madness

Trained electrician are struggling to get this if they can get work !!

£12 If I paid £12 a hour they would have to do a lot ore than just clean windows

What you guys are paying them is more than trained and qualified tradesman ect

[Joe Martin]

Its what is paid local to your area.
Im afraid its the rate is for good people round here.
I have just had a electrician round to price work, his rate is £75.00 per hour, and he is so far the cheapest.

[david thomas]

I DEPENDS WHAT PART OF THE U.K YOUR BUSINESS OPPERATES FROM

[gewindows]

£10/12 per hour is madness

Trained electrician are struggling to get this if they can get work !!

£12 If I paid £12 a hour they would have to do a lot ore than just clean windows

What you guys are paying them is more than trained and qualified tradesman ect

6 years ago we employed a sparky. He charged £170 a day. Id imagine its fair to say hes on £200 a day now. That's dramatically more than £10 an hour.

Ronnie everyone in Manchester is on a pittance. The rest of the country isn't. I'm glad I don't pay anyone the minimum, minimum wage is for those who don't have much to offer.

Perhaps you have difficulty in getting the best out of your men. It doesn't come naturally to everyone :-)

[ronnie paton]

£75 a hour firstly he is not employee and secondly you will a dramatic change now, for example a full rewire on a semi can be done for £1500-£2000 which includes materials and when done correctly will never be £75 per hour not even £50 per hour maybe more like £17-25 and that's self employed /businesses

We need to also understand an employee is different then a self employed/ business rate please rise and shine and joe.

Finally I don't just work in Manchester and I see these rate all over the country, maybe some areas wages are higher but can cost 250k for a terrace in them areas too

[KS Cleaning]

Driver/window cleaner £10 per hour,window cleaner £8 per hour.

[Ben wood]

It's an unskilled trade. People work hard all there lives for 6.50 an hour in a factory happily. You just need to find the right person. 7 per hour is a fair price for a window cleaner as they get other benefits like holiday pay. Sick pay. It makes me laugh when people say why would they work hard for 7 pound ahhour when they see what you takings are, what about people in mac Donalds do they moan about how much they take and only get min wage no. It's business at the end of the day. You need to make a profit simples

[David Kent @ KentKleen]

people in mcdonalds do moan, and they have a extremely high turnover of staff!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rich dad poor dad springs to mind.It is well worth the read

[CleanClear]

Tom work out 25% of whatthey do and work it out to an hourly rate. Or just simply pay 25% of what is done. Putting them on a price gets more done in the long run.

25% of what they do ? LOL !!! At that rate they could undercut you by 50% and double their wage !! Hang on, maybe i'm wrong and its possible to sit at home earning 75% of what an employee takes.

[Ben wood]

How short sighted are you you would not 75 percent as you have to pay holiday pay and all the other bills like van fuel insurance. I wonder how some can even get dressed in the morning

[ronnie paton]

Clean clear your wrong!

[david thomas]

Agree with Ronnie on this one

[CleanClear]

Clean clear your wrong!

I intimated that in my post above. If you could expand further that would be good.

[CleanClear]

How short sighted are you you would not 75 percent as you have to pay holiday pay and all the other bills like van fuel insurance. I wonder how some can even get dressed in the morning

Pretty much the only cost not fixed would be the fuel (thats assuming we're still talking about paying an employee 25% and of course you're providing a van). So yes the figure of 75% will not be accurate as it will depend upon the amount of work done and the fuel used and a few other factors. It could be higher or lower. So i just used a ballpark figure.

[Trev Jones]

If you need another person to help you, but only need them for say 10 days per month initially, would it not be easier to get them to set themselves up as self-employed and invoice you for the hours they work and pay them this way. Would this not be an easier way, rather than having to go through all the employment requirements for a company if you can only offer (initially) a part time number of hours.

[Trev Jones]

This should of been on another thread, oops 

[CleanClear]

If you need another person to help you, but only need them for say 10 days per month initially, would it not be easier to get them to set themselves up as self-employed and invoice you for the hours they work and pay them this way. Would this not be an easier way, rather than having to go through all the employment requirements for a company if you can only offer (initially) a part time number of hours.

I'd say that seems to be a fine way to start off Trev. The OP's question is what to pay them though?

[easy clean]

My longest serving employee is on between £19 and £32 an hour depending on what job his on. Before you all start, if you had him working for you, you too would pay him this!

[Trev Jones]

Yeah, sorry, was meant to be on the part time worker thread, doh  

[CleanClear]

This should of been on another thread, oops 

Sorry Trev, i already went and replied. What thread did you mean to post on , was it the how to employ staff on a nil hours contract or something else?