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ben M

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work without a pump controller?
« on: December 22, 2012, 12:05:46 am »
Can you work without a digital pump controller? if yes, how do you do to connect the pump to the battery ( i know i am useless  ;) )
thanks

stuart mc

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2012, 12:17:20 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple

R.C Property

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 12:26:31 am »
You can do like stuart says, make sure you have a fuse on it and have a spare pump just in case, they can burn out quicker than one with a controller.

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 12:27:12 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple
thanks Stuart, does it damage the pump without controller?
what about the flow, it must be high?
thanks

R.C Property

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2012, 12:28:32 am »
Oh yer that too, it will use a lot more water too

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2012, 12:30:05 am »
You can do like stuart says, make sure you have a fuse on it and have a spare pump just in case, they can burn out quicker than one with a controller.
thanks Richard, which kind of fuse?

R.C Property

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2012, 12:32:55 am »
You can do like stuart says, make sure you have a fuse on it and have a spare pump just in case, they can burn out quicker than one with a controller.
thanks Richard, which kind of fuse?

10amp fuse, like the type in the car.

stuart mc

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2012, 12:35:00 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple
thanks Stuart, does it damage the pump without controller?
what about the flow, it must be high?
thanks

no I have burnt 1 pressure switch in 5 years with a second hand pump, cost about 1.80 to replace

yes the flow is high but you work quicker ;)

very few will agree with me but I find it works well

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2012, 12:37:50 am »
You can do like stuart says, make sure you have a fuse on it and have a spare pump just in case, they can burn out quicker than one with a controller.
thanks Richard, which kind of fuse?

10amp fuse, like the type in the car.
something like that?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/In-Line-standard-waterproof-Blade-Fuse-Holder-fuses-10a-10amp-kit-car-boat-bike-/300640464789?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item45ff916f95

R.C Property

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2012, 12:39:15 am »
You can do like stuart says, make sure you have a fuse on it and have a spare pump just in case, they can burn out quicker than one with a controller.
thanks Richard, which kind of fuse?

10amp fuse, like the type in the car.
something like that?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/In-Line-standard-waterproof-Blade-Fuse-Holder-fuses-10a-10amp-kit-car-boat-bike-/300640464789?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item45ff916f95

Yer that's the one!

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2012, 12:39:18 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple
thanks Stuart, does it damage the pump without controller?
what about the flow, it must be high?
thanks

no I have burnt 1 pressure switch in 5 years with a second hand pump, cost about 1.80 to replace

yes the flow is high but you work quicker ;)

very few will agree with me but I find it works well
ok great, do you have a fuse or not?
thanks

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2012, 12:41:16 am »
You can do like stuart says, make sure you have a fuse on it and have a spare pump just in case, they can burn out quicker than one with a controller.
thanks Richard, which kind of fuse?

10amp fuse, like the type in the car.
something like that?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/In-Line-standard-waterproof-Blade-Fuse-Holder-fuses-10a-10amp-kit-car-boat-bike-/300640464789?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item45ff916f95

Yer that's the one!
lovely thanks, so i have to do red wire from the pump,the fuse and positive on the battery,isn't it?

Window Washers

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2012, 12:48:15 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple
put fuse in red wire to stop it burning out

If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

stuart mc

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2012, 12:49:15 am »
yes I have a fuse, never fitted it though ;D I also have a wiring diagram for a relay that protects the pressure switch and never fitted that either, but yes fit a fuse at the very least

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2012, 01:02:10 am »
Thank you very much guys!  :)

roundbuilder

Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2012, 09:06:44 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple
thanks Stuart, does it damage the pump without controller?
what about the flow, it must be high?
thanks

no I have burnt 1 pressure switch in 5 years with a second hand pump, cost about 1.80 to replace

yes the flow is high but you work quicker ;)

very few will agree with me but I find it works well

I agree. I ditched controller years ago.

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2012, 10:26:00 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple
thanks Stuart, does it damage the pump without controller?
what about the flow, it must be high?
thanks

no I have burnt 1 pressure switch in 5 years with a second hand pump, cost about 1.80 to replace

yes the flow is high but you work quicker ;)

very few will agree with me but I find it works well

I agree. I ditched controller years ago.
Mike, do you have a fuse or not? do i have to put one? thanks

Ian Lancaster

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2012, 11:29:31 am »
yes red wire positive, black wire negative on the battery it is that simple
thanks Stuart, does it damage the pump without controller?
what about the flow, it must be high?
thanks

no I have burnt 1 pressure switch in 5 years with a second hand pump, cost about 1.80 to replace

yes the flow is high but you work quicker ;)

very few will agree with me but I find it works well

I agree. I ditched controller years ago.

Split opinions with my guys.  Some have controllers, some don't.  Those that don't have a simple bypass  between the inlet and outlet pipes on the pump with a quarter turn valve in the short length of pipe in between.  They can set the valve to allow water to recycle round the pump so less gets to the brush.  It means the pump is running all the time it is switched on so uses more battery power but they still have no problems getting a day's work done.

One lad has used this system since he joined us five years ago and his pump is still fine.  He bypassed the pressure switch as there is never a 'dead end' provided the valve isn't closed.

ben M

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2012, 12:08:51 pm »
how do you switch off the pump without controller?

thanks

Ian Lancaster

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Re: work without a pump controller?
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2012, 12:13:57 pm »
how do you switch off the pump without controller?

thanks

Buy a toggle switch from Halfords and put it in the positive wire between the battery and the pump ;)