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stuart mc

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2012, 10:30:24 pm »
deary me, all he is doing is showing a risk/method statement and the fact he is CRB checked, so potential clients will know he will pass if they have him checked ;) nothing sinister in that surely, I advertise I am police vetted as part of the licensing process in scotland, but if someone needs me crb checked I know I will have to do it again

CleanClear

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2012, 10:46:06 pm »
deary me, all he is doing is showing a risk/method statement and the fact he is CRB checked, so potential clients will know he will pass if they have him checked ;) nothing sinister in that surely, I advertise I am police vetted as part of the licensing process in scotland, but if someone needs me crb checked I know I will have to do it again

So you clearly havn't looked at his method/risk assesment? Its rubbish, and i mean muppetstyle !! Go look ,read it. Risk..bucket, ladder, trip no mention of using a squeegee or ladder in the method !!! You could of just writ a poem there !!!
http://www.laneswindowcleaning.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/LanesMethodStatement.pdf

CRB is a whole different kettle of fish. Its illegal to display the cert up without permission, and anyone who requires one needs to request one themselves not rely on some internet copy. Of course being a Scottish licensed window cleaner you'll appreciate that everything should be in order, in order to protect the public. Its not in order here.

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2012, 10:55:59 pm »


I just find this whole post petty, really can't understand the motive of picking in a fellow Wc

Fellow ? Sorry, if i was going to advertise myself as being a cut above the rest by providing HSE docs and the like i think i'd get it right. Thats what i'd like to think. I wouldn't take umberance at someone pointing out what i got wrong.
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stuart mc

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2012, 11:07:32 pm »
deary me, all he is doing is showing a risk/method statement and the fact he is CRB checked, so potential clients will know he will pass if they have him checked ;) nothing sinister in that surely, I advertise I am police vetted as part of the licensing process in scotland, but if someone needs me crb checked I know I will have to do it again

So you clearly havn't looked at his method/risk assesment? Its rubbish, and i mean muppetstyle !! Go look ,read it. Risk..bucket, ladder, trip no mention of using a squeegee or ladder in the method !!! You could of just writ a poem there !!!
http://www.laneswindowcleaning.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/LanesMethodStatement.pdf

CRB is a whole different kettle of fish. Its illegal to display the cert up without permission, and anyone who requires one needs to request one themselves not rely on some internet copy. Of course being a Scottish licensed window cleaner you'll appreciate that everything should be in order, in order to protect the public. Its not in order here.



ok took a look, no not how I would do a risk or method statement, but that is up to the client to look and judge, I think dave covered the legal side of the displaying the CRB, unless he has it wrong,

but my main original point is why do you care? he is miles away from you and no threat to your business, if you are genuinely concerned for him, you could have done it a lot better than slating him on an open forum,
  

CleanClear

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2012, 11:23:09 pm »
deary me, all he is doing is showing a risk/method statement and the fact he is CRB checked, so potential clients will know he will pass if they have him checked ;) nothing sinister in that surely, I advertise I am police vetted as part of the licensing process in scotland, but if someone needs me crb checked I know I will have to do it again

So you clearly havn't looked at his method/risk assesment? Its rubbish, and i mean muppetstyle !! Go look ,read it. Risk..bucket, ladder, trip no mention of using a squeegee or ladder in the method !!! You could of just writ a poem there !!!
http://www.laneswindowcleaning.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/LanesMethodStatement.pdf

CRB is a whole different kettle of fish. Its illegal to display the cert up without permission, and anyone who requires one needs to request one themselves not rely on some internet copy. Of course being a Scottish licensed window cleaner you'll appreciate that everything should be in order, in order to protect the public. Its not in order here.



ok took a look, no not how I would do a risk or method statement, but that is up to the client to look and judge, I think dave covered the legal side of the displaying the CRB, unless he has it wrong,

but my main original point is why do you care? he is miles away from you and no threat to your business, if you are genuinely concerned for him, you could have done it a lot better than slating him on an open forum,
  

I'm right about everything i said. I didn't just open my mouth and guess. But to why do i care? I've no idea. But sometimes you just read stuff and think ...thats bolloxs and i'm going to say its bollox. And thats exactly what i've done. I'm not genuinley concerned for anyone here, but the guy is not on his own, there is a trend towards websites saying all this crap, HSE risk and method statement, CRB check blah blah blah, and then all that CITRB, CHAS, CHAP, CLAP, CLAP HAP CHAP accreditation which in itself is another joke and another subject. And someone
 needs to say, its bollox.
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R.C Property

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2012, 11:30:59 pm »
deary me, all he is doing is showing a risk/method statement and the fact he is CRB checked, so potential clients will know he will pass if they have him checked ;) nothing sinister in that surely, I advertise I am police vetted as part of the licensing process in scotland, but if someone needs me crb checked I know I will have to do it again

So you clearly havn't looked at his method/risk assesment? Its rubbish, and i mean muppetstyle !! Go look ,read it. Risk..bucket, ladder, trip no mention of using a squeegee or ladder in the method !!! You could of just writ a poem there !!!
http://www.laneswindowcleaning.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/LanesMethodStatement.pdf

CRB is a whole different kettle of fish. Its illegal to display the cert up without permission, and anyone who requires one needs to request one themselves not rely on some internet copy. Of course being a Scottish licensed window cleaner you'll appreciate that everything should be in order, in order to protect the public. Its not in order here.



ok took a look, no not how I would do a risk or method statement, but that is up to the client to look and judge, I think dave covered the legal side of the displaying the CRB, unless he has it wrong,

but my main original point is why do you care? he is miles away from you and no threat to your business, if you are genuinely concerned for him, you could have done it a lot better than slating him on an open forum,
  

I'm right about everything i said. I didn't just open my mouth and guess. But to why do i care? I've no idea. But sometimes you just read stuff and think ...thats bolloxs and i'm going to say its bollox. And thats exactly what i've done. I'm not genuinley concerned for anyone here, but the guy is not on his own, there is a trend towards websites saying all this crap, HSE risk and method statement, CRB check blah blah blah, and then all that CITRB, CHAS, CHAP, CLAP, CLAP HAP CHAP accreditation which in itself is another joke and another subject. And someone
 needs to say, its bollox.

By the sounds of it you don't even give a s**t about hse stuff and how to protect your business and yourself,
Lots of guys , including me, spent the time to do all this and to fully comply with the hse.

Just go to bed and sleep it all off.

stuart mc

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2012, 11:35:09 pm »
right, banging my head against a table, I will try again, why didn't you do it it a more polite fashion?

I have no problems with his site or anyones, but if it really annoyed you why not just a FAO lanes, just noticed your site and I think you may breaching a few rules blah blah then explain what to do about it,

but your OP was a total random attack at his website and a bit uncalled for

that is my point, and I am not sure he is breaching any rules anyway, even you said probably displaying illegally, I don't think he is, but I could be wrong, I do know(think) you should have an address on any website and I very rarely see that on anyones :-\

CleanClear

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2012, 11:52:23 pm »


By the sounds of it you don't even give a s**t about hse stuff and how to protect your business and yourself,
Lots of guys , including me, spent the time to do all this and to fully comply with the hse.

Just go to bed and sleep it all off.

Richard, i tried to ignore you, but i'll indulge you now. I've nothing to sleep off. I.e i havn't had a drink if thats what you're refering too. You've a problem with me spouting bollox? Or peoples websites that are bollox? Ok, i can live with that.
 I'm very aware of HSE and its issues, and how it protects me and my business. Now i'll assume you are too, look at Lanes method/risk statement statement and tell me if you'd use that.
 Hang on.................STOP PRESS>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 Richards website................
http://rcpropertymaintenance.vpweb.co.uk/?prefix=www

Now i was bedazzled by the city and guilds logo, then the big CRB checked logo with a tick in it, i'm curious about that, i'd like to learn more about it. And the best is................the Disclosure Scotland Logo...for a company that operates in Northampton. Now Richard, lets assume its me thats ped and i'm simple, why does a company in Northamptonshire , England promote a 'disclosure Scotland' logo ? What category was your CRB disclosure for?
MY CRB checks where done by a Nigerian company, i have a disclosure Nigeria logo, i just need to get a minute to upload it, i've no doubt i'll get time over the holiday. Whilst you like Scotland so much, did you mention you are NOT licensed like all the Scottish window cleaners, or maybe that point wasn't to important?
 Anyway aside from all that, hows the monthly draw going? Is it generating new leads for work and how are you coping with the Berlingo van ? Has the hot water system you fitted nearly put it overweight?
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gewindows

Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2012, 12:01:34 am »
CleanClear can we see your website please?

CleanClear

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2012, 12:05:04 am »
right, banging my head against a table, I will try again, why didn't you do it it a more polite fashion?

I have no problems with his site or anyones, but if it really annoyed you why not just a FAO lanes, just noticed your site and I think you may breaching a few rules blah blah then explain what to do about it,

but your OP was a total random attack at his website and a bit uncalled for

that is my point, and I am not sure he is breaching any rules anyway, even you said probably displaying illegally, I don't think he is, but I could be wrong, I do know(think) you should have an address on any website and I very rarely see that on anyones :-\

Stuart, please dont hurt yourself on account of me. Do not hit your head on a table, it hurts and could cause untold amount of damage later in life. Even for the short amount you have left. At the very best his HSE doc is not worth the paper its written on, and his CRB is illegally produced and worthless to anyone who requires one. At worst the HSE doc is a fraud and the CRB is totally misleading and preying upon peoples fears, and infact misleads people into trusting the operative without a proper check them selves. Thats actually how it is.
 Now i'm sorry its random,or maybe its not so random. I get his website in every post i read of his so thats how i got to see it. Ok, whats next?
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CleanClear

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2012, 12:07:01 am »
CleanClear can we see your website please?

You can if you can find it, should be easy reading this thread as even a moron could work out what it is. The clue is where i say ...yes you found me. But other than that mate, no. I'm not putting mine up for public scrutiny.
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gewindows

Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2012, 12:08:15 am »
But you'll shoot anyone elses down who you choose to scrutinise?

If you see fit.

R.C Property

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2012, 12:12:37 am »


By the sounds of it you don't even give a s**t about hse stuff and how to protect your business and yourself,
Lots of guys , including me, spent the time to do all this and to fully comply with the hse.

Just go to bed and sleep it all off.




Richard, i tried to ignore you, but i'll indulge you now. I've nothing to sleep off. I.e i havn't had a drink if thats what you're refering too. You've a problem with me spouting bollox? Or peoples websites that are bollox? Ok, i can live with that.
 I'm very aware of HSE and its issues, and how it protects me and my business. Now i'll assume you are too, look at Lanes method/risk statement statement and tell me if you'd use that.
 Hang on.................STOP PRESS>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 Richards website................
http://rcpropertymaintenance.vpweb.co.uk/?prefix=www

Now i was bedazzled by the city and guilds logo, then the big CRB checked logo with a tick in it, i'm curious about that, i'd like to learn more about it. And the best is................the Disclosure Scotland Logo...for a company that operates in Northampton. Now Richard, lets assume its me thats ped and i'm simple, why does a company in Northamptonshire , England promote a 'disclosure Scotland' logo ? What category was your CRB disclosure for?
MY CRB checks where done by a Nigerian company, i have a disclosure Nigeria logo, i just need to get a minute to upload it, i've no doubt i'll get time over the holiday. Whilst you like Scotland so much, did you mention you are NOT licensed like all the Scottish window cleaners, or maybe that point wasn't to important?
 Anyway aside from all that, hows the monthly draw going? Is it generating new leads for work and how are you coping with the Berlingo van ? Has the hot water system you fitted nearly put it overweight?

e being self employed, you can only get a Scottish disclosure which is the same as a CRB.
There isn't any category for any CRB, they are against you as a person, it would be the same if it was a prison, hospital, school or any other job.

If your CRB was done by another country then they won't be recognized here in the UK.

As for the berlingo its going very well thank you, as for the weight limit I fully loaded it up with all my equipment and 2 sets of ladders, 1 being triple but I never carry them as I only use them once or twice when I'm not doing any window cleaning, just gutter cleaning.

Then I took it down to a weigh bridge and got it check and it's still under the payload, with me in it!!!
Can scan the certificate and post it if you want to see it?????

gewindows

Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2012, 12:13:06 am »
I presume this is it

http://www.cleanandclearcleaning.co

The search function doesn't work. Not that anyone should need one.

stuart mc

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2012, 12:15:14 am »
nah try the other one risenshine, my head is fine by the way ;D

gewindows


CleanClear

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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2012, 12:17:17 am »
I presume this is it

http://www.cleanandclearcleaning.co

The search function doesn't work. Not that anyone should need one.

You need a search function to find an address in a thread? God help us. You  go for it kid, you found me. OK , now go !!!
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Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2012, 12:18:46 am »
I havent read the thread. These threads on CIU are too predictable. Someone comes on here with an inferiority complex and kicks off, someone else responds, they get personal, the details are irrelevant.

gewindows

Re: Lanes window cleaning (Rutland)
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2012, 12:20:11 am »
I guess any attention is good attention to a scouser with an inferiority complex, bit like an 8 year old ADHD sufferer.

Still, you crack on big boy.