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Poll

Which of the following options best describes the way in which my soon to be fellow WFP ers clean their windows?

Just WFP top windows & trad bottoms
21.7%
13 (21.7%)
WFP tops & bottoms
53.3%
32 (53.3%)
Only WFP certain houses
10%
6 (10%)
Only trad certain houses
1.7%
1 (1.7%)
Trad all houses & WFP commercial
8.3%
5 (8.3%)
Other - please leave a reply
5%
3 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 56

Mr. S

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PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« on: February 07, 2006, 11:01:00 pm »
Which of these options best describes the way in which my soon to be fellow WFP ers clean their windows? I think it may be of interest to many to find out!

Sir Squeaky

  • Posts: 8341
Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2006, 11:08:48 pm »
Trad everything. :P

I sometimes jet-wash my car.
That's a kind of wfp isn't it? ;D

brett walker

  • Posts: 1943
Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2006, 11:13:08 pm »
I wfp tops on half my round and trad bottoms if youve got the water capacity it is faster and you can earn more money
if you wfp both.  Personally i would miss doing trad as i would find wfp tops and bottoms a bit boring.

Each to their own

regards

Brett.

P @ F

  • Posts: 6319
Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2006, 11:21:00 pm »
 I wfp everything , i do the odd bit of trad now and again and it really knackers me out  !
 I suppose in a way you have to admire SQUEAKY CLEAN for sticking with trad when wfp is so available .

  Rich   P @ F
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Mr. S

  • Posts: 418
Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2006, 11:25:51 pm »
Maybe Squeaky!!!! I like trad too!

The reason I posted this is because although I love trad way, more money in WFP, but as Brett says could get boring WFPing everything. So once all votes are in, yours is an option im looking at Brett when I start WFP hopeful next week! Might help others I hope too!

Cheers

Regards

Keep votes coming, Many Thanx

Craig

rosskesava

Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2006, 11:36:15 pm »
WFP has it's interesting bits too.

We pick and choose which is best and which is appropriate.

We get paid extra for one huge rich persons house to do it trad. They had WFP's previously and don't want WFP at all. In fact, all the really best jobs we've got in the last 6 months have been jobs done previously by WFP and I'd like to thank them for the brilliant job they done explaining to the customer that ladders are banned. That approach has earnt us a bomb as because of that mis information, we charge extra for using trad methods well within the rules of the WAHL's.

Some commercial work would be slower with wfp. Some is more suited for it. Some is much much quicker and the result better.

It's horses for courses.

Paul Coleman

Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2006, 06:03:08 am »
I WFP everything now but there are a few exceptions such as where the frames are very leaky or if I don't want to put excessive water in a doorway.

brett walker

  • Posts: 1943
Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2006, 07:09:44 am »
Its so easy to get carried away wfp everything for speed, especially on lead and georgian  :o

Its like a hot knife through butter 8)


Brett

Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2006, 07:47:06 am »
Mornin all.

Like Brett says  leaded and georgian. The whole property.

Commercial.  The whole property.

Rest of the domestic stuff. A mixture really. Definately anything we would have to climb to get to where a pole can get to it. Trad for windows above deep flat roofs. For variety and to break up monotony we use trad on bottom windows most of the time. If we just want to speed through the day or get that extra 2 or 3 in at the end of of the day then its all done with WFP. Its good to mix it a bit because as I say it it breaks up monotony.

We only went WFP for safety at the start. OK we are a lot faster now and could be faster still if we WFP'd everything but we like to enjoy our days work so it gives us the luxury of being able to choose which method to use on the ground floor. Variety is the spice of life :)

Cheers

Andrew

Ian_Giles

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2006, 08:12:19 am »
As a general rule it is WFP all the way for me, but Trad gets used just about every day at some point.
I actually find I now enjoy the times I am using Trad a lot more than I did when I had no option.
Today I shall be using trad on 2 or 3 windows, one on an office balcony, and once on a door and the 2 windows next to it (again, another office)
The balcony because it is easier to trad them, and the other because for some reason these couple of bits just won't come up right with WFP :-\

Time to go!

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Terry_Burrows

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2006, 08:18:03 am »
 ;) why spend £££££ when you dont have to :-\ when Trad will do :-\ private houses not keen on it from my feed backs,to messy they say,can be sold good to
comercial h/s and all that :)
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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2006, 09:53:48 am »

  I do tops and some bottoms have found the customers LOVE IT, have had
  no cancellations to date but no doubt will have. Have not used ladders are
  banned but have used the honest approach that it is a lot safer for me.

  Offer them the service if any window does not come up to standard I'll
  come back and do it again.

  And best of all I have a captive audience when doing it, and once finished
  the business cards come out. To the ladies I just tell them no more drawing
  your bedroom windows when you see the window cleaner coming  ;D ;D ;D

  Best investment to date.

  Doug

Morph

Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2006, 10:13:46 am »
I went straight in at the deep end.  Still fairly new to wfp, but informed everyone this is how I do it now, if they don't like it I go back to the old way.
feel like I've shot myself in the foot in some ways.  No-one wants to go back.
So everything wfp for me.  Tops bottoms, bungalows, the lot.  Front doors under porches get just a quick wipe.

Pj

Sarah Sarill

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2006, 05:12:52 pm »
100 % wfp.  Dont carry ladders anymore.  If we cant get access without ladders then we dont do the property at all. :o

Sarah


Sarah

Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2006, 05:29:42 pm »
;) why spend £££££ when you dont have to :-\ when Trad will do :-\ private houses not keen on it from my feed backs,to messy they say,can be sold good to
comercial h/s and all that :)

Terry,

I can't believe I'm giving you advice, but here goes.

Okay many residential customers may prefer to have their windows cleaned with ladders being used for access to their first floor.

But who cares as long as the window is left clean?  Don't give them the option.  Some people - like Roger (Squeaks) - don't like change.

You've got to sell the benifits of WFP to your customer.  No holes in the lawn.  No noisy ladders.  Clean frames; free-of-charge.  No dead or crippled window cleaner trying to sue you.  Etc.

I've lost one small account due to my WFP; and gained a lot with it; and two large (by my standards) accounts that I wouldn't have touched if I just did trad.

This afternoon I did a three-storey farm-house with a massive Georgian windowed conservatory.

It's a nice job with a WFP.


Sir Squeaky

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2006, 05:46:22 pm »
But who cares as long as the window is left clean?  Don't give them the option.  Some people - like Roger (Squeaks) - don't like change.
Keep at it Terry, you're quicker than any of them. ;)
In a lot of cases I am too.

I don't dislike change, I just get too much negative feedback to upset my customers.

I had another one ask me today, as they were unhappy with the previous wfp'er.

John Hughes is also going to lose a BIG one because of it too.
She much preferred his work when done by hand.

I won't take it off him, as I know him.
I was asked to though.

I haven't had a complaint for many years....apart from missing people out sometimes! :-\

Rog.

gaza

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2006, 06:08:54 pm »
funny I had a  women ask me to wfp her windows today cus she wasnt happy with her previous trad window cleaner ;D

 gaza
IM AT THAT AGE MY BACK GOES OUT MORE THAN I DO

Sir Squeaky

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2006, 06:11:44 pm »
funny I had a  women ask me to wfp her windows today cus she wasnt happy with her previous trad window cleaner ;D

 gaza
Care in the community is a wonderful thing..... ;D

gaza

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2006, 06:25:30 pm »
squeek how did you  know you would enjoy sex till you tried it ,bet you carnt get enough now ;D
gaza
IM AT THAT AGE MY BACK GOES OUT MORE THAN I DO

Mick (UHPS)

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Re: PLEASE VOTE - To WFP or Not WFP, That is the question?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2006, 06:27:51 pm »
WFP everything....what is this trad lark  ::) ;D

I do a few trad if I have to  :o 8)