[[GQC] Tim]

Scrimble,

Unfortunately, the SLX is not a 100% carbon pole either, the base section has fiberglass content as do the Phoenix. Do you feel you have been misleaded?

Also weight wise the SLX 18 and Phoenix X 18 are pretty much identical. The Phoenix might actually be lighter.

Thatsd
Foxman, big difference between having a full fibreglass handle and a full carbon handle with some insulating layer on top. Quite misleading.  

Tim, its not a big difference at all. That's the point. All the spec's are the equivalent if not better, yet it should be the other way round...

We will have to agree to disagree then.

[JackieW]

G&M said,
''If the weight and rigidity are the same whats the big deal.''

I agree.

If someone came up with a pole that was
more rigid,
 lighter,
warmer,
stronger,
quicker,
better clamping,

than anything else

but shock wasn't made of carbon fibre
and even more shock wasn't made by Gardiner's

I'd be tempted to try it.

By the way I have an SLX22 and am very happy with it and Gardiner Pole Systems.

[stevieg]

Are these poles clamps lateral(i hate them) they catch on things too easily and rotate on the pole and thus finish up on opposite sides to each other on the pole.Also are they glued on(another waste of time).

[dd]

I think the only way to know if the Phoenix is better or not than Gardiners poles is to actually buy one and take it to work. Until enough people do this and post we are none the wiser IMO.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

It seems it's more Phoenix Nights than Phoenix pole!!